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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1968_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1968 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1968 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationaboutMarriageSeptember241968Seattle_0" class="quote" parent="1968_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="18" link="Room Conversation about Marriage -- September 24, 1968, Seattle" link_text="Room Conversation about Marriage -- September 24, 1968, Seattle">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation about Marriage -- September 24, 1968, Seattle|Room Conversation about Marriage -- September 24, 1968, Seattle]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Material life means sex life. In the spiritual world there is no sex life because there is no birth, there is no death. That is stated in Bhāgavata. Although the women are very, very beautiful, many thousand times more beautiful than here... Their stature of body, their everything, youthfulness, everything. But still they are so much engaged in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, in chanting the glories, that they are not, I mean to say, influenced by the lust. That is stated in Śrīmad-Bhāgavata, in the Vaikuṇṭha. There are women. They also, men and women there is, and they also go by airplane, fly in the sky for trip, and all of them are devotees to Nārāyaṇa, Lakṣmī-Nārāyaṇa associate. So these things are described. So similarly, amongst the gopīs also. So in the spiritual life there is nothing like this sex pleasure. And the more we forget sex life, that means we are advancing in spiritual life. So this should be the attitude, that women, Godsisters, they should be nicely treated so that they may not feel any... After all, they are weaker. That should be our policy. Anyway... And if somebody agrees to marry, oh, that is welcome. There is no objection. Marriage is allowed. And so many married couples, they are very nicely living. Those who have gone to London, they were not married in the beginning, and I got them married. Similarly, here also, Harṣarāṇī and others. In New York also, Balāi dāsī, Advaita. So if the boy and girl agrees to marry, it is very nice. There is no objection. If not, they should be given all protection. Is that all right?</p>
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<div id="TalkDuringPrasadaAfterKirtanaNovember81968LosAngeles_1" class="quote" parent="1968_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="23" link="Talk During Prasada After Kirtana -- November 8, 1968, Los Angeles" link_text="Talk During Prasada After Kirtana -- November 8, 1968, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Talk During Prasada After Kirtana -- November 8, 1968, Los Angeles|Talk During Prasada After Kirtana -- November 8, 1968, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Oh. They have got very big hall?</p>
<p>Woman: So I was just wondering maybe I should... You know, well, if that's how they're going to act, then I should move out of there. But I don't know. I don't know if that's the right attitude on my part. I don't know. They say they didn't have any room.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh, you are... Govinda dāsī?</p>
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<div id="1969_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="2" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1969 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1969 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithAllenGinsbergMay111969ColumbusOhio_0" class="quote" parent="1969_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="13" link="Room Conversation with Allen Ginsberg -- May 11, 1969, Columbus, Ohio" link_text="Room Conversation with Allen Ginsberg -- May 11, 1969, Columbus, Ohio">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Allen Ginsberg -- May 11, 1969, Columbus, Ohio|Room Conversation with Allen Ginsberg -- May 11, 1969, Columbus, Ohio]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Allen Ginsberg: Yes, he apparently fits into, in the West what is called the Gnostic tradition, which has similar ideas and similar bhakti attitudes to the Buddhist and Hindu traditions. Similar cosmography, cosmology. He was my teacher.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: He did not give much stress on this material body.</p>
<p>Allen Ginsberg: No! At the end of his life, he didn't count on the material body.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So, there is a spiritual concept of life in his poetry.</p>
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<div id="1970_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="3" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1970 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1970 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationNovember41970Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1970_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="1" link="Room Conversation -- November 4, 1970, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation -- November 4, 1970, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- November 4, 1970, Bombay|Room Conversation -- November 4, 1970, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Haṁsadūta: Do you want to hear the next letter? This is the second letter. "I do not see why you devoted two full pages to the article on 'Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa,' November 8th. Wearing a plain white sari, applying sandal paste on the forehead and wearing nose-rings do not transform one. Churning milk gopī fashion is no way to attain spiritual bliss. The statements made by the devotees of the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement reflect an attitude of escapism."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm. Anyway, we are getting publicity.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationNovember41970Bombay_1" class="quote" parent="1970_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="1" link="Room Conversation -- November 4, 1970, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation -- November 4, 1970, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- November 4, 1970, Bombay|Room Conversation -- November 4, 1970, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Haṁsadūta: (laughs) They're angry. "How can the chanting of Hare Kṛṣṇa purify the mind? It only closes it to everything else. Purity of the mind lies in knowing all evil and yet abstaining from it. The escapist attitude of the devotees of the movement is reflected in the reply of Adhikārī when he bypasses the question of India's poverty by giving irrelevant answers. The poverty of our country is known to all of us. I am not an atheist, but I find it difficult to digest the sentimentalism in the article."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: What is that sentimentalism?</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: I didn't read the article. That was in the... Which paper? I think this was in a Bombay paper. What paper is this?</p>
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<div id="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="4" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1971 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1971 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="DiscussionwithIndiansJanuary181971Allahabad_0" class="quote" parent="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="3" link="Discussion with Indians -- January 18, 1971, Allahabad" link_text="Discussion with Indians -- January 18, 1971, Allahabad">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Discussion with Indians -- January 18, 1971, Allahabad|Discussion with Indians -- January 18, 1971, Allahabad]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Guest (2): We understand now what you mean, submissiveness.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: So that same thing is there if you want to learn from a spiritual master, that you come with an attitude of submission and prepared to follow the instructions. But if you think, "Well, if I like the instruction, I may follow. And if I don't like, then let him go to hell," then what is the use of inquiry?</p>
<p>Guest (2): No, no, no. We don't want Prabhupāda...</p>
<p>Guest (1): That is not the idea. Submissiveness is the only lesson of Gītā</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: That is the only lesson. "You just give up all..."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, we cannot hear any more. That is the only lesson. That is the only example.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationApril61971Bombay_1" class="quote" parent="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="7" link="Room Conversation -- April 6, 1971, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation -- April 6, 1971, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- April 6, 1971, Bombay|Room Conversation -- April 6, 1971, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So so many Bhagavad-gītā commentators, scholars, their only business is how to drive away Kṛṣṇa from Bhagavad-gītā. That is their... They do not give on the personality of Kṛṣṇa as the Supreme Personality of Godhead. I have several times told you. Even scholars like Dr. Rādhā-Krishnan, he says like that, "It is not to Kṛṣṇa, person." Why? Why this demonic attitude? How you can get help from Kṛṣṇa? That is... We are discussing now, daivī-sampāt and āsuri-sampāt. Āsuri-sampāt means to kill Kṛṣṇa. That's all, to wipe out Kṛṣṇa from Bhagavad-gītā and bring something else. Six hundred and sixty-four editions of Bhagavad-gītā. This is going on. Prasāda.</p>
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<div id="ConversationwithProfKotovskyJune221971Moscow_2" class="quote" parent="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="8" link="Conversation with Prof. Kotovsky -- June 22, 1971, Moscow" link_text="Conversation with Prof. Kotovsky -- June 22, 1971, Moscow">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation with Prof. Kotovsky -- June 22, 1971, Moscow|Conversation with Prof. Kotovsky -- June 22, 1971, Moscow]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prof. Kotovsky: Yes. And haven't you come across some hostile attitude to your teaching from orthodox Hindu, from orthodox brāhmaṇas in India itself.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But rather, we have subdued them.</p>
<p>Prof. Kotovsky: Ah, yes.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Because we are... Any orthodox Hindu may come, but we have got our weapons, Vedic evidences. So nobody has come. But even Christian priest... Even Christian priests in America, they love me. They say that "These boys..., our boys... They are Americans. They are Christians. They are Jews. And these boys are so much after God, and we could not deliver them?" They're admitting. Their fathers, their parents, come to me.</p>
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<div id="ConversationwithProfKotovskyJune221971Moscow_3" class="quote" parent="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="8" link="Conversation with Prof. Kotovsky -- June 22, 1971, Moscow" link_text="Conversation with Prof. Kotovsky -- June 22, 1971, Moscow">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation with Prof. Kotovsky -- June 22, 1971, Moscow|Conversation with Prof. Kotovsky -- June 22, 1971, Moscow]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prof. Kotovsky: But if you would, will have many, even many followers, how far this adaption of Kṛṣṇa consciousness by many American boys would affect the politics of their attitude, for instance, to such a bearing problem of America as Vietnam War?</p>
<p>Guest: Correct. They'll never be the one who will ever advocate any war because they know this war itself is a wrong thing.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no. We don't say, "Avoid war." But unnecessary war is avoided. Just like Kṛṣṇa induced Arjuna to fight. It was necessary. It was necessary.</p>
<p>Guest: To get rid of extra evil.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationAugust141971London_4" class="quote" parent="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="18" link="Room Conversation -- August 14, 1971, London" link_text="Room Conversation -- August 14, 1971, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- August 14, 1971, London|Room Conversation -- August 14, 1971, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Sister Mary: It's a matter of attitude who created this (indistinct)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm?</p>
<p>Sister Mary: It's a matter of your attitude.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Not attitude. Development of my God consciousness. Attitude may be artificial. But it is actual development of God consciousness. God consciousness is there in everybody. It requires simply to be developed. Just like a child. A child has got love within her, within his heart. But when he is young, it develops. It develops. And the girl, boy, automatically becomes attached because that propensity has developed. It is not an artificial thing. It was already there. It has to be developed. So God consciousness is there in everyone's heart. Otherwise, how these boys are chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa? Unless Kṛṣṇa was there within. Artificially you cannot force them, chant Hare Kṛṣṇa twenty-four hours.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationAugust171971London_5" class="quote" parent="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="20" link="Room Conversation -- August 17, 1971, London" link_text="Room Conversation -- August 17, 1971, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- August 17, 1971, London|Room Conversation -- August 17, 1971, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa is not understandable does not mean that we are also as fool as they are. Rather, Kṛṣṇa is so big that He is understandable even by us, and what to, about these rascals. What you can understand? We cannot understand. This should be the position, that "We are constantly serving Kṛṣṇa, we cannot understand Him. And what, rascal, you can understand?" The attitude should be taken like that.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: We just accept whatever Kṛṣṇa says...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That's it.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithDrWeiroftheMensaSocietySeptember51971London_6" class="quote" parent="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="25" link="Room Conversation with Dr. Weir of the Mensa Society -- September 5, 1971, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Dr. Weir of the Mensa Society -- September 5, 1971, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Dr. Weir of the Mensa Society -- September 5, 1971, London|Room Conversation with Dr. Weir of the Mensa Society -- September 5, 1971, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes. What does he say?</p>
<p>Dr. Weir: Well, his position would be the same as yours. Wouldn't it? In religion?</p>
<p>Mensa Member: You mean the Tibetan Buddhist attitude about the Godhead is the same as the Kṛṣṇas?</p>
<p>Dr. Weir: Yes. They have that same basis.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But so far we know that Buddhists they do not believe in God, existence of God.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithDrWeiroftheMensaSocietySeptember51971London_7" class="quote" parent="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="25" link="Room Conversation with Dr. Weir of the Mensa Society -- September 5, 1971, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Dr. Weir of the Mensa Society -- September 5, 1971, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Dr. Weir of the Mensa Society -- September 5, 1971, London|Room Conversation with Dr. Weir of the Mensa Society -- September 5, 1971, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Weir: That's what interests me. One has this hierarchical or superior attitude even in the statement you've just made, that things, you know, about (indistinct) which is what I feel is easier.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Because we take from God there is no mistake. There's no mistake. Otherwise He cannot be God.</p>
<p>Dr. Weir: I mean this is just unnecessary. It is just tautological. This is in your definition of God. You don't have to go any farther.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But God means He's above mistake,</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithDrKaranSinghNovember251971Delhi_8" class="quote" parent="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="29" link="Room Conversation with Dr. Karan Singh, -- November 25, 1971, Delhi" link_text="Room Conversation with Dr. Karan Singh, -- November 25, 1971, Delhi">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Dr. Karan Singh, -- November 25, 1971, Delhi|Room Conversation with Dr. Karan Singh, -- November 25, 1971, Delhi]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Singh: It is the attitude with which one does it.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. That is the definition of bhakti. Bhakti means hṛṣīkeṇa hṛṣīkeśa-sevanaṁ bhaktir ucyate ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 19.170|CC Madhya 19.170]]). Hṛṣīkeṇa hṛṣīkeśa-sevanaṁ, that is bhakti. Now to serve Kṛṣṇa, Hṛṣīkeśa, that requires qualification. Just like you are king, if somebody wants to serve you as your secretary, he has to have specific qualifications. Not ordinary man. Similarly, bhakti means to serve Kṛṣṇa. So everyone can serve Kṛṣṇa provided he is qualified. And what is that qualification?</p>
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<div id="1972_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="5" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1972 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1972 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationMay41972Mexico_0" class="quote" parent="1972_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="20" link="Room Conversation -- May 4, 1972, Mexico" link_text="Room Conversation -- May 4, 1972, Mexico">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- May 4, 1972, Mexico|Room Conversation -- May 4, 1972, Mexico]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Thank you very much. That should be the attitude. That is the way of understanding. Upadekṣyanti te jñānaṁ jñāninas tattva-darśinaḥ. Those who are Tattva-darśiḥ, those who have seen the truth, we have to take knowledge from them. That is the direction in the Bhagavad-gītā, not from the third-class men. One who has seen, one who has known, you have to take knowledge from him, tattva-darśiḥ. Tad viddhi praṇipātena paripraśnena sevayā ([[Vanisource:BG 4.34 (1972)|BG 4.34]]). You have to understand by surrendering, by rendering service and by question, three things. You cannot question simply. There must be service and surrender; then question will be nice. And if all of a sudden you come and question, that answer will not be sufficient.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationandInterviewwithIanPolsenJuly311972London_1" class="quote" parent="1972_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="36" link="Room Conversation and Interview with Ian Polsen -- July 31, 1972, London" link_text="Room Conversation and Interview with Ian Polsen -- July 31, 1972, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation and Interview with Ian Polsen -- July 31, 1972, London|Room Conversation and Interview with Ian Polsen -- July 31, 1972, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Ian Polsen: I have come to ask Your Grace because I cannot make spiritual progress without the grace of the spiritual master.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Thank you. You will make progress. Your attitude is very nice. This is the asset. Hm.</p>
<p>Ian Polsen: My next question is...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Our Caitanya Mahāprabhu says,</p>
:tṛṇād api sunīcena
:taror api sahiṣṇunā
:amāninā mānadena
:kīrtaniyaḥ sadā hariḥ
:([[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.31|CC Adi 17.31]])
<p>The... (aside:) You are feeling uncomfortable? You can give him some seat.</p>
<p>Ian Polsen: No, thank you. I can sit here.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationandInterviewwithIanPolsenJuly311972London_2" class="quote" parent="1972_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="36" link="Room Conversation and Interview with Ian Polsen -- July 31, 1972, London" link_text="Room Conversation and Interview with Ian Polsen -- July 31, 1972, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation and Interview with Ian Polsen -- July 31, 1972, London|Room Conversation and Interview with Ian Polsen -- July 31, 1972, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: These things are all madman's proposition, that's all. So this madness can go when we actually surrender to Kṛṣṇa. Then we can understand things as they are. So we are training our students in that way. If anyone is serious, then he can make his life successful, even during this span of life. So I'm very glad that you have got this attitude. So it is very simple thing. Hm? There is a Bengali verse, (Bengali). Just like a person ghostly haunted, he speaks so many nonsense, up to somebody's declaring "I am God." First of all "I am this; I am that. I am this; I am that. I want to become this. I want to become this." And when he is frustrated with everything, then he says, "I am God."</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationandInterviewwithIanPolsenJuly311972London_3" class="quote" parent="1972_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="36" link="Room Conversation and Interview with Ian Polsen -- July 31, 1972, London" link_text="Room Conversation and Interview with Ian Polsen -- July 31, 1972, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation and Interview with Ian Polsen -- July 31, 1972, London|Room Conversation and Interview with Ian Polsen -- July 31, 1972, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Well, that also you can continue. That is not... Just like we are using so many things made of skin. But as far as possible, you avoid. There are many shoes without skin, nowadays they are available. First of all try to understand the philosophy. It is very nice attitude that you have. What salary you are getting, government service?</p>
<p>Ian Polsen: I've just been promoted.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Huh?</p>
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<div id="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1973 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1973 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkApril291973LosAngeles_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="18" link="Morning Walk -- April 29, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 29, 1973, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 29, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- April 29, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa... While preaching our movement we should take this attitude. We cannot make compromise with anyone. Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa, Caitanya... Lord Caitanya's cult is to preach the instruction or talks about Kṛṣṇa. That's all. Yāre dekha, tāre kaha kṛṣṇa-upadeśa ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 7.128|CC Madhya 7.128]]).</p>
<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: Kṛṣṇa-prema?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa-upadeśa. This is Caitanya's cult. Whomever you meet, you talk of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. That's, that is the cult of Caitanya Mahāprabhu. This is genuine spiritual movement. Or the human society's movement. Spiritual, cultural, religious philosophical, scientific, everything, complete. Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa (pause) So you admit these facts?</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithDrArnoldToynbeeFamousHistorianathishomeorofficeJuly221973London_1" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="49" link="Room Conversation with Dr. Arnold Toynbee, Famous Historian, at his home or office -- July 22, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Dr. Arnold Toynbee, Famous Historian, at his home or office -- July 22, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Dr. Arnold Toynbee, Famous Historian, at his home or office -- July 22, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Dr. Arnold Toynbee, Famous Historian, at his home or office -- July 22, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Translation.</p>
<p>Pradyumna: "Translation. During the reign of Mahārāja Yudhiṣṭhira, the clouds showered all the water that people needed, and the earth produced all the necessities of man in profusion. Due to its fatty milk bag and cheerful attitude, the cow used to moisten the grazing ground with milk."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This was the position of the kingdom, that the cows felt secure. At the present moment, the cows are very unhappy. I have seen. They are almost crying. Because they can understand that "After some time, we'll be killed."</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithLordBrockwayJuly231973London_2" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="50" link="Room Conversation with Lord Brockway -- July 23, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Lord Brockway -- July 23, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Lord Brockway -- July 23, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Lord Brockway -- July 23, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So that is natu... That is good. Big, big man. Caitanya Mahāprabhu, He was lear... "I am fool number one." And the author of Caitanya-caritāmṛta, he says that "I am lower than the, a worm in the stool." So this is good attitude. Nobody... Sir Isaac Newton also used to say that "What knowledge I have got. I have simply collected..." They're... Every, every big man thinks like that. That is good attitude. But there is comparative study, that "Here is a big man, here is a common man." So our proposition is that it is a great science, great philosophy. So western countries, they are intelligent, especially the Britain, British people. They had very good opportunity. Still they have got opportunity. So my request is that let us study this philosophy and science and if possible introduce it in the human society. That is our proposal.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithReporterfromResearchersMagazineJuly241973London_3" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="51" link="Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Dharmārtha-kāma, this is karmī's position. And mokṣa is mukti's position. So he says that "If I've got unflinching devotional attitude upon You, My Lord, then mukti is at my door, with folded hands. And this this dharmārtha-kāma, they're at my command." Simply by bhakti. The people are after dharma, artha, kāma, mokṣa (SB 4.8.41, Cc. Ādi 1.90), but these four things become at the order of a bhakta. Muktiḥ svayaṁ mukulitāñjali sevate 'smān dharmārtha-kāma-gatayaḥ samaya-pratīkṣāḥ.</p>
<p>Devotee: Prasādam.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Prasāde sarva-duḥkhānāṁ hānir asyopajāyate. (Guest and devotees talk in background.)</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithFrenchJournalistandUNESCOWorkerAugust101973Paris_4" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="58" link="Room Conversation with French Journalist and UNESCO Worker -- August 10, 1973, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with French Journalist and UNESCO Worker -- August 10, 1973, Paris">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with French Journalist and UNESCO Worker -- August 10, 1973, Paris|Room Conversation with French Journalist and UNESCO Worker -- August 10, 1973, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śrutakīrti:</p>
:kāmaṁ vavarṣa parjanyaḥ
:sarva kāma dughā mahī
:siṣicuḥ sma vrajān gāvaḥ
:payasodhasvatīr mudā
:([[Vanisource:SB 1.10.4|SB 1.10.4]])
<p>"During the reign of Mahārāja Yudhiṣṭhira, the clouds showered all the water that people needed, and the earth produced all the necessities of man in profusion. Due to its fatty milk bag and cheerful attitude, the cow used to moisten the grazing ground with milk."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Now here is economics, politics and everything. So by Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement we want to see that everyone is getting nicely the necessities of life. That is economic. Is it not?</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithSanskritProfessorAugust131973Paris_5" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="64" link="Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor -- August 13, 1973, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor -- August 13, 1973, Paris">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor -- August 13, 1973, Paris|Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor -- August 13, 1973, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Everyone, everyone appreciated. After Ratha-yātrā, wherever our men went, they were received very well.</p>
<p>Professor: And what was the attitude of the Indian colony in London?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: I do not know what is Indian colony.</p>
<p>Professor: There are many.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, there are many. These are some of the pictures in Melbourne.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: Three carts like this.</p>
<p>Professor: The big wheel. That's nice.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: You can see. There it's taking prasādam, serving prasādam. Everyone, so many devotees.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkAugust301973London_6" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="66" link="Morning Walk -- August 30, 1973, London" link_text="Morning Walk -- August 30, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- August 30, 1973, London|Morning Walk -- August 30, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">David Lawrence: Yes, you know he had his body put into suspended animation. I don't know what they call it, cytology is it or something? They have them put into chemicals and bathed. Because he died of cancer and he wants to be woken up in about fifty years time when they've got the cure for cancer and then he can live again and make a few more films apparently. (laughter) It's extraordinary attitude to life isn't it really? One of the other problems that I was going to raise, and in fact it appears in the question sheet, it seems to be some, in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, is that the right pronunciation? I always get these things wrong.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, Bhāgavatam.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkAugust301973London_7" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="66" link="Morning Walk -- August 30, 1973, London" link_text="Morning Walk -- August 30, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- August 30, 1973, London|Morning Walk -- August 30, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">David Lawrence:. This is the sort of problem one comes across, whether in fact... You see, having grown up in what was really a very liberal, critical attitude...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Therefore, this portion of Kṛṣṇa's life is depicted on the Tenth Canto. Nine Cantos are devoted to understand Kṛṣṇa. So without understanding Kṛṣṇa if one tries to read the life and pastimes of Kṛṣṇa, it may be misleading.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithIndianAmbassadorSeptember51973Stockholm_8" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="72" link="Room Conversation with Indian Ambassador -- September 5, 1973, Stockholm" link_text="Room Conversation with Indian Ambassador -- September 5, 1973, Stockholm">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Indian Ambassador -- September 5, 1973, Stockholm|Room Conversation with Indian Ambassador -- September 5, 1973, Stockholm]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Pradyumna:</p>
:kāmaṁ vavarṣa parjanyaḥ
:sarva-kāma-dughā mahī
:siṣicuḥ sma vrajān gāvaḥ
:payasodhasvatīr mudā
:([[Vanisource:SB 1.10.4|SB 1.10.4]])
<p>"During the reign of Mahārāja Yudhiṣṭhira, the clouds showered all the water that people needed, and the earth produced all the necessities of man in profusion. Due to its fatty milk bag, and cheerful attitude, the cow used to moisten the grazing ground with milk."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Now, happy attitude. Now the cow are going to be killed. They know it, that "We are going to be killed." They're also intelligent living entity. So how they can be happy? If some human being concentrated in a camp, and they know that "We are going to be killed," can they be happy? So if one is not happy, if the cow is not happy, can she supply sufficient milk? No. No. Therefore just they were happy. Therefore milk was supplied so much that the grazing ground became wet with milk. Muddy.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithDrChristianHauserPsychiatristSeptember101973Stockholm_9" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="73" link="Room Conversation with Dr. Christian Hauser, Psychiatrist -- September 10, 1973, Stockholm" link_text="Room Conversation with Dr. Christian Hauser, Psychiatrist -- September 10, 1973, Stockholm">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Dr. Christian Hauser, Psychiatrist -- September 10, 1973, Stockholm|Room Conversation with Dr. Christian Hauser, Psychiatrist -- September 10, 1973, Stockholm]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: The newspaper is glorification of this mundane world. You have to transfer your consciousness to understand the glorification of the Supreme. This is transcendental literature. So people have got the tendency to read but they're glorifying this rascal, mundane rascals. So that attitude should be transferred to understand the glorification of the Supreme Lord. That will be (indistinct). That we are presenting. We are presenting a literature exactly like the newspaper. They are glorifying some Nixon and Dixon. We are glorifying Kṛṣṇa. That is the difference. That is the difference. If Nixon has glorification, how much glorification is there in reserve of the Supreme Lord?</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkDecember21973LosAngeles_10" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="87" link="Morning Walk -- December 2, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- December 2, 1973, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 2, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- December 2, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Bali Mardana: It's their envious attitude. They are envious.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no. It is not the question of envious. Because you are thinking that He is inconceivable, because you cannot say... But how can you say that another person cannot say? There are so many things I do not know. That does not mean that somebody else does not know. You may not know. Your experience is not mature. But how you can say, "Another person cannot have the experience"? So that is answered in the Bhagavad-gītā, vedāhaṁ samatītāni, māṁ tu veda na kaścana: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.26 (1972)|BG 7.26]]) "I know everything, but nobody knows Me."</p>
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<div id="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1974 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkJanuary121974LosAngeles_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="8" link="Morning Walk -- January 12, 1974, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- January 12, 1974, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- January 12, 1974, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- January 12, 1974, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prajāpati: Yes, that's right. (break) ...have been projected. One is that we preach very boldly and hold no bars, make it known completely what our platform is. The other attitude is one of making up propaganda more palatable by saying if elected we will reinstitute prayers into schools and not tell them much more than that.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Why in the school? In every home.</p>
<p>Prajāpati: Well, it was a very big issue several years ago. They used to have a prayer at the beginning of each school day. But then one demoniac lady, one atheist, she, by her, simply by her will-power got the Supreme Court to rule that unconstitutional. Now prayers are not allowed in schools anymore unless we make an amendment to the constitution, saying "Yes, we can have a prayer in school." Then it would be allowed.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationFebruary131974Vrndavana_1" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="20" link="Room Conversation -- February 13, 1974, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversation -- February 13, 1974, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- February 13, 1974, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- February 13, 1974, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Guest (1): Actually that's the best attitude.</p>
<p>Guru dāsa: So to understand how we're different means we're in knowledge, not ignorance. And then what to do with that understanding means that not seeming. You said it seems, but we're saying not seems...</p>
<p>Guest (1): That's because my, I've read some other things, some other types of thoughts. Now...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Now, (indistinct), the universe is God, then you are also God. Is it?</p>
<p>Guest (1): Yes, that follows.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch301974Bombay_2" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="49" link="Morning Walk -- March 30, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 30, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 30, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- March 30, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: ...attitude. You want to dictate to everyone, although you do not know anything.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: But you...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes! That is your... Now, you see, understand.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: I understand...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: He has performed the annakūṭa ceremony. Either you eat or I eat, where is the difference?</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Great difference. (break) ...what way?</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkApril51974Bombay_3" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="55" link="Morning Walk -- April 5, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 5, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 5, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- April 5, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: No, no. Why discuss not? Discussion must be there to understand. First of all, if God is...</p>
<p>Indian man (2): There should be no uncompromising attitude regarding other's views. You see we must have our attitude of brotherhood. (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: What Vyāsadeva says? That is described in the...</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: What Vyāsadeva says. Different ācāryas' interpretation...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no. There is no interpretation. How can you interpret?</p>
<p>Indian man (2): (break) ...follow ācārya. You see... (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Ācārya means not foolishly.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMay91974Bombay_4" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="79" link="Morning Walk -- May 9, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- May 9, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 9, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- May 9, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Just see.</p>
<p>Bhāgavata: The whole attitude was very dull and unhappy and morose, that "Oh, we are in the hospital. My body, my body..." As soon as we had the kīrtana, they all got out of the bed and they came and stood around and they watched and some were clapping and chanting.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Just see. Immediately life. Oh, just try to understand how much great responsibility you have got.</p>
<p>Bhāgavata: They all appreciated that we made this kīrtana.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Even the Russians appreciated. (aside:) Don't push it in my mouth.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithRichardWebsterchairmanSocietaFilosoficaItalianaMay241974Rome_5" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="83" link="Room Conversation with Richard Webster, chairman, Societa Filosofica Italiana -- May 24, 1974, Rome" link_text="Room Conversation with Richard Webster, chairman, Societa Filosofica Italiana -- May 24, 1974, Rome">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Richard Webster, chairman, Societa Filosofica Italiana -- May 24, 1974, Rome|Room Conversation with Richard Webster, chairman, Societa Filosofica Italiana -- May 24, 1974, Rome]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Richard Webster: Well, may I ask a question? I find in medieval European philosophy two different attitudes and..., which I find difficult to reconcile perfectly. That is to say the earlier Christians, up to the thirteenth Century, I suppose, were practically only thinking about God, nothing else but God so that nature or the human being, or any... everything else, tended to disappear altogether as also in some Indian philosophy, I think. And then, later on, with more modern science and so on you've got a different attitude in the Christians themselves, that is to say an attitude of acceptance towards subordinate things so that they became independent and finally, of course, broke away altogether so that nowadays we have science without God at all. But there was a sort of period in the late middle ages when St. Thomas Aquinas, who stopped thinking about God, only about God, and gave his attention to science, so they say. Well, there was a sort of conflict there. I don't quite know what to say about it whether I'm on one side or the other. That is to say if I were to (indistinct) the earlier Christian or (indistinct) There was Aquinas, for instance, who was a saint, but he would pray into the world, if you like. I wondered whether you would disapprove of that or...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, these different types of philosophers are always there, not only in the medieval age, in the previously also. It is said, na cāsāv ṛṣir yasya mataṁ na bhinnam. "A philosopher is not a philosopher if he does not present a different view."</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithMonsieurRoostHathayogiMay311974Geneva_6" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="92" link="Room Conversation with Monsieur Roost, Hatha-yogi -- May 31, 1974, Geneva" link_text="Room Conversation with Monsieur Roost, Hatha-yogi -- May 31, 1974, Geneva">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Monsieur Roost, Hatha-yogi -- May 31, 1974, Geneva|Room Conversation with Monsieur Roost, Hatha-yogi -- May 31, 1974, Geneva]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So naturally, Kṛṣṇa samādhi. If one continues in this attitude, always to be absorbed in Kṛṣṇa... And Kṛṣṇa recommends, "Such person is the topmost yogi."</p>
:yoginām api sarveṣāṁ
:mad-gatenāntarātmanā
:śraddhāvān bhajate yo māṁ
:sa me yuktatamo mataḥ
:([[Vanisource:BG 6.47 (1972)|BG 6.47]])
<p>So it is confirmed by the greatest authority, and if we practice... This practice can be done in the association of devotees. And that is perfection of life. There are some conditions about self-control: no meat-eating, no fish, no eggs, no illicit sex life, and no intoxication, even smoking, drinking tea, and no gambling. And chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra and thinking of Kṛṣṇa. That's all. Very easy.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithChristianPriestJune91974Paris_7" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="104" link="Room Conversation with Christian Priest -- June 9, 1974, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with Christian Priest -- June 9, 1974, Paris">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Christian Priest -- June 9, 1974, Paris|Room Conversation with Christian Priest -- June 9, 1974, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: And simply by chanting the holy name of Kṛṣṇa, everyone can see how these young boys and girls, they are not very old, they have taken to it quite young, but they have forgotten everything. They do not go to cinema, do not go to hotel, no dancing. Dancing they have got—Kṛṣṇa dancing, always. Painting they have got, singing they have got, arts, literature. We have got eighty books like this, four hundred pages. Pure life—no meat eating, no illicit sex, no intoxication, no gambling. Finished. And it is guaranteed if you remain in this attitude, Kṛṣṇa says that "Surely you come back to me." What is the second line? Man-manā...</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkJune111974Paris_8" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="106" link="Morning Walk -- June 11, 1974, Paris" link_text="Morning Walk -- June 11, 1974, Paris">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- June 11, 1974, Paris|Morning Walk -- June 11, 1974, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: You may resent, but we know everything. That is a fact.</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa: So how do we deal with that attitude if they're turned away by our...?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no. He's a rascal. How we can...? We know everything, and he denies. Then what is the use of talking with him? And waste your time. Let him know everything. We have nothing, no business.</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa: We can't compromise and just say that we don't know.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Eh?</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa: What does he...</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithProfessorDurckheimGermanSpiritualWriterJune191974Germany_9" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="123" link="Room Conversation with Professor Durckheim German Spiritual Writer -- June 19, 1974, Germany" link_text="Room Conversation with Professor Durckheim German Spiritual Writer -- June 19, 1974, Germany">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Professor Durckheim German Spiritual Writer -- June 19, 1974, Germany|Room Conversation with Professor Durckheim German Spiritual Writer -- June 19, 1974, Germany]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Professor Durckheim: May I ask a question? It is quite clear for our rational mind, I can understand there is a dead body, and there must be something in him, enough to make it alive. Now, the conclusion, I say there are two things, that my question was how he becomes aware in himself as an experience, not as conclusion, because I realize that on the inner way it becomes important more and more to feel deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper realities. That's why in my little work I make a distinction between the body you have and the body you are. The English language says, talks about "somebody" and "something." "Somebody" means a person. So the body you are. It's the whole of the gestures wherein you express and you present and you miss or you realize your real self. So the body you are. Usually if you go to a doctor he sees only the body you have. He tackles it like a machine. If somebody with shoulders like this, he says, "Well, you must make exercises." If somebody comes to me with shoulders like this, I say, "The body you are, you have no confidence in life. So get an attitude of confidence." So he gets to know the body he is, not only the body he has, which doesn't at all touch at your wisdom.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, as I say, the active principle, I am also the active principle. As I say, the dead body and the living body, difference is, when the active principle is not there, it is dead body. Similarly, I am also the active principle. So 'ham, so 'ham: "I am the same active principle." Ahaṁ brahmāsmi: "I am Brahman. I am not this material body." That is self-realization.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithPaterEmmanuelABenedictineMonkJune221974Germany_10" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="128" link="Room Conversation with Pater Emmanuel (A Benedictine Monk) -- June 22, 1974, Germany" link_text="Room Conversation with Pater Emmanuel (A Benedictine Monk) -- June 22, 1974, Germany">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Pater Emmanuel (A Benedictine Monk) -- June 22, 1974, Germany|Room Conversation with Pater Emmanuel (A Benedictine Monk) -- June 22, 1974, Germany]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Pater Emmanuel: (German)</p>
<p>German devotee: He is asking if he should not show this humility, attitude of humility, to all others.</p>
<p>Pater Emmanuel: Exercise upon others.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But just like special respect and ordinary respect.</p>
<p>Pater Emmanuel: But I think it is a very necessary, this mutual respect.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Oh, yes. This is instructed by Caitanya Mahāprabhu, that you should offer respect even to a person who has no respect. Amāninā mānadena. You should not expect any respect for yourself, but you should give respect to others.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithReverendGordonPowellHeadofScotsChurchJune281974Melbourne_11" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="130" link="Room Conversation with Reverend Gordon Powell, Head of Scots Church -- June 28, 1974, Melbourne" link_text="Room Conversation with Reverend Gordon Powell, Head of Scots Church -- June 28, 1974, Melbourne">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Reverend Gordon Powell, Head of Scots Church -- June 28, 1974, Melbourne|Room Conversation with Reverend Gordon Powell, Head of Scots Church -- June 28, 1974, Melbourne]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That is not good.</p>
<p>Reverend Powell: What is your attitude to Jesus?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: I have already explained in the meeting.</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa: Yes.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: We, we respect him as transcendental representative of God, son of God. Yes. He's...</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationsSeptember111974Vrndavana_12" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="146" link="Room Conversations -- September 11, 1974, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversations -- September 11, 1974, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversations -- September 11, 1974, Vrndavana|Room Conversations -- September 11, 1974, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Everyone.</p>
:yad-avadhi mama cetaḥ kṛṣṇa-pādāravinde
:nava-nava-rasa-dhāmany (udyataṁ) rantum āsīt
:tad-avadhi bata nārī-saṅgame smaryamāne
:bhavati mukha-vikāraḥ suṣṭhu niṣṭhīvanaṁ ca
<p>Yamunacarya, he was a great king. So his.... As king, his life was sex. But when he became a devotee, he admits, yad-avadhi mama cetaḥ kṛṣṇa-pādāravinde: "Since I have learned how to enjoy association with the lotus feet of Kṛṣṇa and I get more and more eternal transcendental bliss, since that time," bata nārī-saṅgame smaryamāne, "even if I think of sex life with woman," bhavati mukha-vikāraḥ, mukha-vikāraḥ, "I taste that (indistinct)," suṣṭhu niṣṭhīvanaṁ, (makes spitting sound). This is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. When the mind will be fixed up, (spitting sound), these things, then you enter Kṛṣṇa's (indistinct). Otherwise, it is mixed up. You have to purify. When this attitude, we (spitting noise)—"What is this?"—then Kṛṣṇa consciousness is beginning.</p>
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