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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonSB32541BombayDecember91974_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="461" link="Lecture on SB 3.25.41 -- Bombay, December 9, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.25.41 -- Bombay, December 9, 1974">
<div class="heading">In Western countries there is killing even grown-up child within the womb. They are killing, abortion. They think there is no life. Unless it comes out of the womb, there is no life. It's all nonsense theory. All nonsense theory, simply committing sinful life one after another and becoming entangled. The result will be that he will have to enter again into the womb of mother and he will be killed.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.25.41 -- Bombay, December 9, 1974|Lecture on SB 3.25.41 -- Bombay, December 9, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">What you are accepting, spelled by māyā, as very position, good position... I have told you many times. It is published in now..., that therefore, the rascal class of men, they want to..., they do not want to accept that there is life after death. "Everything is finished." Therefore in Western countries there is killing even grown-up child within the womb. They are killing, abortion. They think there is no life. Unless it comes out of the womb, there is no life. It's all nonsense theory. All nonsense theory, simply committing sinful life one after another and becoming entangled. The result will be that he will have to enter again into the womb of mother and he will be killed. He will be killed not once. He will be killed again when he enters the womb of the mother; again he will be killed. For many, many years he will not be allowed to see the light of the sun.</p>
<p>Therefore na māṁ duṣkṛtino mūḍhāḥ prapadyante narādhamāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.15 (1972)|BG 7.15]]). People are becoming so narādhama, so sinful and mūḍha, that there is no rescue unless one takes to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. There is no rescue. The whole world is going just like the flies. When there is fire, open fire, they come from long distance, and "Fut! Fut! Fut! Fut! Fut!" being captivated by the beauty of the fire. Similarly, this whole civilization, this so-called civilization, human civilization, is falling in the fire of illusory māyā, "Fut! Fut! Fut! Fut! Fut!" and again and again. Bhūtvā bhūtvā pralīyate ([[Vanisource:BG 8.19 (1972)|BG 8.19]]). Once takes birth, one again dies, again suffers. But we have no brain, mūḍha. Therefore is called mūḍha. Na māṁ duṣkṛtino mūḍhāḥ prapadyante narādhamāḥ. Therefore Kṛṣṇa is so kind and His devotees are so kind that they... Kṛṣṇa comes. Yadā yadā hi dharmasya glānir bhavati bhārata, tadātmānaṁ sṛjā... ([[Vanisource:BG 4.7 (1972)|BG 4.7]]). He comes. He is very unhappy by seeing our unhappiness in this material world because we are sons of Kṛṣṇa. Mamaivāṁśo jīva-bhūtaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 15.7 (1972)|BG 15.7]]).</p>
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1973 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1973 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithMisterPopworthandEFSchumacherJuly261973London_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="53" link="Room Conversation with Mister Popworth and E. F. Schumacher -- July 26, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Mister Popworth and E. F. Schumacher -- July 26, 1973, London">
<div class="heading">Now, their theory is that when the child comes out of the womb, then he gets the soul. Is it not? What kind of theory it is? For killing the child within the womb, they have discovered this theory.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Mister Popworth and E. F. Schumacher -- July 26, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Mister Popworth and E. F. Schumacher -- July 26, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Now, their theory is that when the child comes out of the womb, then he gets the soul. Is it not?</p>
<p>Revatīnandana: Yes.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Not within the womb.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: Yeah.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: What kind of theory it is? For killing the child within the womb, they have discovered this theory.</p>
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<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationJanuary161976Mayapur_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="14" link="Room Conversation -- January 16, 1976, Mayapur" link_text="Room Conversation -- January 16, 1976, Mayapur">
<div class="heading">"There is no soul in the womb. When they come out then the soul becomes"—what is this nonsense? Unless there is soul, how it becomes manifest?
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- January 16, 1976, Mayapur|Room Conversation -- January 16, 1976, Mayapur]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Combination of matter and soul, moving animals. Some of them are standing as trees and plant, and some of them are moving. Where is the science to study? What is your value of knowledge? Hm? If they do not know the fundamental things, then what is the value of their knowledge? Simply observation, superficial, externally. There is good scope. They are receiving these books. We should take chance of preaching this Bhāgavatam, and the classes should be held especially.... No, the religious classes are already there. Let them study Bhāgavatam, Bhagavad-gītā. And they will accept it. They are not fools. Simply we have to introduce it. The Western people, they are not fools, but misguided. So you take the charge of guiding them; then Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement will be successful. They will appreciate, they will take it up and reform, and their life will be successful. And if they utilize their intelligence how to reduce population and kill child within the womb and "There is no soul in the womb. When they come out then the soul becomes"—what is this nonsense? Unless there is soul, how it becomes manifest?</p>
<p>Hariśauri: It's obvious. If the body is growing within the womb, there must be life there.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: The same process is going on from the very beginning. A body is formed and it develops. The child is born.... The same process is going on. How do you say there is no soul? If there is no soul, how it has developed within the womb? Such rascals, they are passing on as big scientists. What is the reason they don't believe that there is no soul?</p>
<p>Harikeśa: They have really no argument.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Just see. All dogmatic. All dogmatic foolishness they are propagating, and it is going on in the name of vijñāna, science.</p>
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