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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div class="heading">This is the beginning of spiritual knowledge. Therefore Kṛṣṇa begins from this point, that "Why you are thinking that you are one of the family members? This is bodily concept."
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- January 2, 1977, Bombay|Morning Walk -- January 2, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: They, sir, I have, after we met..., first I met you, some previous time, I made an extensive study of both the sides of Vaiṣṇavism as well as the same conclusion. I think they are falling short of the final (indistinct). Once they say that they are in Brahman, they are final. But there is Para-brahman also. That Brahman is nothing but a jyoti of Para-brahman. That they forget.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That means knowledge.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: And I think, sir, even then Śaṅkarācārya has not meant that we must be short of that. He was also worshiping, was he not? He was worshiping Para-brahman.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: He has given a commentary on the Bhagavad-gītā. In the beginning he says nārāyaṇaḥ paraḥ, "Nārāyaṇa is transcendental."</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: But these fellows are misinterpreting him later on.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is the difficulty. The whole world is full of demons. And they are demons. Who declare himself "I am God," he's a demon.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Only one who has actually realized Para-brahman and becomes the real bhakta of Brahman, he has got a right to say Brahma... Unless he becomes brahma-bhūta ([[Vanisource:SB 4.30.20|SB 4.30.20]]).</p>
:brahma-bhūtaḥ prasannātmā
:na śocati na kāṅkṣati
:samaḥ sarveṣu bhūteṣu
:mad-bhaktiṁ labhate parām
:([[Vanisource:BG 18.54|BG 18.54]])
<p>Then he becomes brahma-bhūta. Otherwise he cannot become. (indistinct Sanskrit) Brahma-bhūta is the first stage. This they consider the final. I mean, that is my understanding. I don't know; I may be right or wrong. But I want to (be) corrected by you.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Brahma-bhūta... Jīva-bhūta, everyone is thinking, "I am this body." That is jīva-bhūta. And when (he) understands that "I'm not body; I'm within the body," that is brahma-bhūta.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: That is ādya. (indistinct) Perpetually Brahman.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No. This is the beginning of spiritual knowledge. Therefore Kṛṣṇa begins from this point, that "Why you are thinking that you are one of the family members? This is bodily concept."</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: First and second and (indistinct) this, that nobody is your relative, and, I mean, all of body dies, but the soul can never die. This is the body. Body has no value. Lot of mosquitoes, you know? On your side (indistinct).</p>
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