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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div class="heading">Ust like so much training we are giving; still, there is falldown. So simply by saying...
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- May 2, 1977, Bombay|Room Conversation -- May 2, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Tamala Krsna: Srila Prabhupada? I was thinking to, if I had some free time, that I could work on writing some essay about nationalism.</p>
<p>Prabhupada: Why?</p>
<p>Tamala Krsna: Well, you've been mentioning so many times about how foolish the..., so many people are. Under the banner of nationalism they are basing their whole life.</p>
<p>Prabhupada: But they'll not hear. If you forbid the dogs, "Don't bark," it is like that. Why waste time? He'll go on with all politics. Negative, as soon as you say, they'll neglect.</p>
<p>Tamala Krsna: Is there some subject matter...?</p>
<p>Prabhupada: It requires training.</p>
<p>Tamala Krsna: Is there some subject matter...?</p>
<p>Prabhupada: Just like so much training we are giving; still, there is falldown. So simply by saying...</p>
<p>Tamala Krsna: So you had... There was a newspaper article about a few weeks ago, and you had said that something could be written on this subject. That's the only reason I...</p>
<p>Prabhupada: (Bengali) Hm.</p>
<p>Bhakti-caru: (Bengali)</p>
<p>Tamala Krsna: Is there any subject that would be good to write on?</p>
<p>Prabhupada: Oh, we have got so many subjects, positive. Read our books and present it in a different way. You can write intelligently. That's not bad. Just to induce them...</p>
<p>Tamala Krsna: No, I...</p>
<p>Prabhupada: But they will not hear.</p>
<p>Tamala Krsna: Yeah, right.</p>
<p>Prabhupada: Just see. This man did not even reply even.</p>
<p>Tamala Krsna: Should I call him now?</p>
<p>Prabhupada: No, what is use?</p>
<p>Tamala Krsna: No, he... I mean, he's not interested. That's fact. Even if I call him on the telephone, I can insult him, but that's about all. So what's the purpose?</p>
<p>Prabhupada: To make another enemy. Just see. Even Shriman Narayan and other, I repeatedly indirectly said that Gandhi made a great mistake. So who hears me?</p>
<p>Tamala Krsna: No. If he was to hear that, it means his whole..., he himself has to admit that half of his life he's spoiled, 'cause he's been following Gandhi, praising Gandhi his whole lifetime. They are afraid to admit...</p>
<p>Prabhupada: Andha yathandhair upaniyamanah ([[Vanisource:SB 7.5.31|SB 7.5.31]]). They remain blind, yes. They like to remain blind. Their leaders are blind, and the followers want to remain blind. This is maya. Unless there is training... This is instruction, adau gurvasrayam. If he doesn't understand the aim of life... It is meant for the most fortunate. Ei rupe brahmanda bhram..., kona bhagyavan jiva. Manusyanam sahasresu ([[Vanisource:BG 7.3|BG 7.3]]). But still, as far as possible, we shall take opportunity to try to convince him. Just see. This man is with us for the last six months. He is not ready to sacrifice his hair.</p>
<p>Tamala Krsna: Some dead stool.</p>
<p>Prabhupada: Eh?</p>
<p>Tamala Krsna: Some lump of stool on the head. Even that, he won't give up.</p>
<p>Prabhupada: No, what is the value of this hair? But it cannot be... He has got some conviction, "I am not ready still for give up this hair." Did he not say like that? What he'll do? He'll be forced to give up his hair and the body on which it has grown. Still, he'll not do. Obstinate dogs. This is their position. They are not human being. Mudha, naradhama, mayayapahrta-jnana. These are the terms. They apply. One thing I... Take your note. You can write one letter which will be presented to Shriman Narayan when Gopala Krsna goes.</p>
<p>Tamala Krsna: I'll take dictation. I'll get my pad.</p>
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