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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div class="heading">If I say that "I am ISKCON," what is the wrong there? Because I have created this; therefore I say, "ISKCON means I. I am ISKCON." So what is the wrong there? It is like that.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- January 3, 1976, Nellore|Morning Walk -- January 3, 1976, Nellore]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Acyutānanda: (break) ...the authority of a authority. We're accepting his authority, but his experience comes from his direct perception, which comes back to...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: We don't take such authorities, who takes experience from others. We take authority who is...</p>
<p>Keśavalāl Trivedi: Experienced.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Automatically. (sic:) Parāsya bhaktir vividhaiva śruyate svabhāvikī jñāna-bala-kriyā ca. Svabhāva..., you can.... Just like if you ask me how to do something, if I say, "Yes, you do like this," svabhāvikī. I have got by nature knowledge how to do it perfectly. That is going on. Mayādhyakṣeṇa prakṛtiḥ sūyate sa-carācaram ([[Vanisource:BG 9.10|BG 9.10]]). Kṛṣṇa is dictating that "You do like this." So, you see, everything is coming perfect. From the nim seed a nim tree will come. It is so nicely made by Kṛṣṇa-bījo 'haṁ sarva-bhūtānām (Bg 7.10)—that it will come nim tree, not mango tree. The chemicals are so combined. You do not know what is there, a small seed, baṭa vṛkṣa. And a huge banyan tree will come out, not other tree. That is knowledge. He has given the whole, I mean to say, operation in a small seed. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, bījo 'haṁ sarva-bhūtānām. There is no mistake. You simply take it and cultivate. You'll get the result.</p>
<p>Acyutānanda: So that principle, which makes things grow, the Īśopaniṣad says, so 'ham asmi: "I am that principle."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm?</p>
<p>Acyutānanda: The Īśopaniṣad says in the ultimate śloka, so 'ham asmi: "I am that."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Asmi means "It is my energy. It is my energy."</p>
<p>Acyutānanda: No, it says...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: If I say that "I am ISKCON," what is the wrong there? Because I have created this; therefore I say, "ISKCON means I. I am ISKCON." So what is the wrong there? It is like that. By energy of Kṛṣṇa, everything has come out. Therefore says, "I am this, I am this, I am this, I am this." Vibhūti-bhinnam. Because everything.... Janmādy asya yataḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 1.1.1|SB 1.1.1]]). Everything has come from Kṛṣṇa.</p>
<p>Acyutānanda: No, the Īśopaniṣad says that you are that principle. Īśopaniṣad says the principle which is lighting the sun...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, a devotee accepts.... That we accept.</p>
<p>Acyutānanda: ...that "I am that principle. The being that is lighting the sun, I am that."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: I do not follow you.</p>
<p>Acyutānanda: So 'ham asmi. That sixteenth...</p>
<p>Harikeśa: "Like unto the sun, as am I."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh. Yes, so 'ham asmi—because I am part and parcel.</p>
<p>Acyutānanda: No, but it says "I am that, " not that "I am part of that."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No.</p>
<p>Acyutānanda: "I am that." "Like unto..."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: If it is said, it can be accepted, because I am qualitatively the same.</p>
<p>Keśavalāl Trivedi: Quantity, much difference.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Acyutānanda: No, but the direct statement...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: I am.... If I say, "I am Indian," what is the wrong there, if I say, "I am Indian"?</p>
<p>Acyutānanda: That is something else.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Not something else.</p>
<p>Acyutānanda: But to directly accept the śruti, it says you are that same principle.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: And therefore you have to learn from the guru. And if you directly take, then you remain a fool. Therefore you require a guru. That is the instruction of śruti. Tad-vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum evābhigacchet (MU 1.2.12). You have to learn śruti. You have to come to a guru.</p>
<p>Acyutānanda: No, but this is after that. The ultimate conclusion of that Upaniṣad, śruti, the authority, is that you are that same principle.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, I am the same principle. Nityo nityānām.</p>
<p>Acyutānanda: Well, nothing can be more eternal than another eternal.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Everyone is eternal.</p>
<p>Acyutānanda: It is contradictory then. Nityo nityanānāṁ. You cannot say that one thing is more eternal than another thing.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no. That is not the point. Everyone is eternal.</p>
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