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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="ConversationwithYogiAmritDesaiofKripaluAshramPAUSAJanuary21977Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="2" link="Conversation with Yogi Amrit Desai of Kripalu Ashram (PA USA) -- January 2, 1977, Bombay" link_text="Conversation with Yogi Amrit Desai of Kripalu Ashram (PA USA) -- January 2, 1977, Bombay">
<div class="heading">A sannyāsī means he has ceased all material desire. There is no material desire. And the concentrated material enjoyment is sex. So if one could not control his sex life, then how he is swami? He's cheater.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation with Yogi Amrit Desai of Kripalu Ashram (PA USA) -- January 2, 1977, Bombay|Conversation with Yogi Amrit Desai of Kripalu Ashram (PA USA) -- January 2, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: (Hindi) Kevala-bodha-labdhaye, kliśyanti. Just to know things, if he's simply troubling, his gain is that troubling only. Śreyaḥ-sṛtiṁ bhaktim udasya kliśyanti ye kevala-bodha-labdhaye. So jñāna... This jñāna is to understand. Just like the scientists, they are getting some knowledge, studying some features, and what do they gain more?</p>
<p>Yogi Amrit Desai: Just information and a memory.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: They cannot give any real position. They are studying so many molecules, so many atoms, so many this, so many... They are mixing... They are... That is already going on. How it is going on? Who has set up the machine going on? That they do not know.</p>
<p>Yogi Amrit Desai: Right. They don't know the key part of it.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Neither they can set up similar arrangement. They're simply studying.</p>
<p>Yogi Amrit Desai: They can study what is, but they do not know how it came about.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. So where is jñāna? Ajñāna.</p>
<p>Yogi Amrit Desai: And it can at the most increase the convenience on the material plane.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Jñāna, real jñāna, is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā. Find out. Etaj jñānam iti proktam ajñānaṁ yad ato 'nyathā. What is jñāna, that is stated. But where is jñāna? Everyone is ajñāna. General people, they're karmīs and, little more, jñānīs. But jñāna is not complete unless he knows the Supreme Lord.</p>
<p>Yogi Amrit Desai: Unless he has realized.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Not realized, no. Just like we are talking personally. This is...</p>
<p>Jagadīśa: Amānitvam adambhitvam ahiṁsā kṣāntir ārjavam, ācāryopāsanaṁ śaucam... ([[Vanisource:BG 13.8|BG 13.8]]).</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. So this is ācāryopāsanam. That is required. But these yogis, jñānīs, karmīs, they have no ācārya. They are self-made. Just like Dr. Russer.(?). He's self-made. So what he will do? Now he's caught up. He's in the trap. He's not a scientific man, but he presented himself as very scientific, so now he's caught up.</p>
<p>Yogi Amrit Desai: Right. You found it right away.</p>
<p>Jagadīśa: There's an index.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Hmm. Go on.</p>
<p>Jagadīśa: Sthairyam ātma-vinigrahaḥ, indriyārtheṣu vairāgyam anahaṅkāra eva ca.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Indriyārtheṣu vairāgyam, not to indulge in sense gratification, not to dress himself as a sādhu, as a swami.</p>
<p>Yogi Amrit Desai: Not external.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: He's servant of his senses, and he has become a swami. Just see how cheating it is.</p>
<p>Yogi Amrit Desai: That's the real meaning.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Swami means who is the controller of the senses.</p>
<p>Yogi Amrit Desai: Master of the senses.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Senses. So instead of swami, he is servant of his senses, and he is preaching as swami. These swamis go to the foreign countries. Indriyārtheṣu vairāgyam.</p>
<p>Yogi Amrit Desai: They have vairāgya to his senses, of the senses.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: A sannyāsī... A sannyāsī means he has ceased all material desire. There is no material desire. And the concentrated material enjoyment is sex. So if one could not control his sex life, then how he is swami? He's cheater.</p>
<p>Yogi Amrit Desai: That is the most potent of all the external attachments.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is the essence. Mahat-sevāṁ dvāram āhur vimuktes. Mahat-sevāṁ dvāram āhur vimuktes tamo-dvāraṁ yoṣitāṁ saṅgī-saṅgam ([[Vanisource:SB 5.5.2|SB 5.5.2]]). Tamo-dvāram. Viśatāṁ tamisram adānta-gobhiḥ. Adānta-gobhiḥ, by uncontrolled senses, one is going down and down to the darkest region of material existence. Adānta-gobhir viśatāṁ tamisram. So those who are sensuous... One should not be sensuous. That is also... And if he mixes with sensuous persons, then he also going to the hell.</p>
<p>Yogi Amrit Desai: Right. One who attaches himself to that.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: He's also going to the hell. Adānta-gobhir viśatāṁ tamisraṁ punaḥ punaś carvita-carvaṇānām ([[Vanisource:SB 7.5.30|SB 7.5.30]]). So without ācāryopāsanam, without being under the control of ācārya, these are all bogus.</p>
<p>Yogi Amrit Desai: That's exactly what I believe. That's so true.</p>
<p>Jagadīśa: Anahaṅkāra eva ca, janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi-duḥkha-doṣānudarśanam ([[Vanisource:BG 13.9|BG 13.9]]).</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: They are showing some magic. Just like this child was being treated. So he could not check the process of death. Neither it is possible to stop the process of death. Janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi-duḥkha... Our real unhappiness is this-janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi. So otherwise why there is knowledge? He does not know what is the miserable condition of life. Everyone knows that he is going to die. He has taken birth; he has become old; he has suffered diseases. Then where is the solution? In America this yoga practice is very popular, and they want some solution of the miseries. But here it is said, "Where is the solution?" Janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi is there. Where is your solution? You cannot stop death. Then where is the solution? This is cheating, that "I shall make solution of your suffering." But a intelligent man will say, "Can you make a solution of my death, of my old age, of my disease, of my birth?" That is knowledge. But they are poor fellows. They have no knowledge and they cheat. That's all. Where is solution? Solution is this Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti ([[Vanisource:BG 4.9|BG 4.9]]), it is said. Otherwise cheating.</p>
<p>Yogi Amrit Desai: Other is settling for the lesser, and it doesn't take you to the highest.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That means they do not know what is solution, what is the process of solution.</p>
<p>Yogi Amrit Desai: Right. Just taking care of the body doesn't take you anywhere. That's the lowest.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: You may take care as carefully as possible, but it will not exist.</p>
<p>Yogi Amrit Desai: Right. No matter how much you take care of it.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is another foolishness. Janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi-duḥkha-doṣānudarśanam ([[Vanisource:BG 13.9|BG 13.9]]). Then?</p>
<p>Jagadīśa: Asaktir anabhiṣvaṅgaḥ...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Asaktir anabhiṣvaṅgaḥ putra-dāra-gṛhādiṣu: completely detached from family life, anabhiṣvaṅgaḥ, not to associate with so-called society, family, community.</p>
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