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[[Category:Questions asked to Srila Prabhupada]]
[[Category:Questions asked to SP... 1973]]
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<div id="RoomConversationwithDavidWynneSculptorJuly91973London_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="35" link="Room Conversation with David Wynne, Sculptor -- July 9, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with David Wynne, Sculptor -- July 9, 1973, London">
<div class="heading">Any, any war. They create whimsical... Anything you do whimsically, you are responsible. Anything you do. Why fighting? Anything.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with David Wynne, Sculptor -- July 9, 1973, London|Room Conversation with David Wynne, Sculptor -- July 9, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">David Wynne: Has it ever been perfect?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Eh?</p>
<p>David Wynne: Has it ever been on earth in the material world perfect with...?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh yes.</p>
<p>David Wynne: It has.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Five thousand years ago, it was all perfect. The whole world, this planet, was being ruled by one king. And they were all happy. That is in the history. Five thousand years ago. Maybe less, in three thousand years ago the history was different. The difficulty is that as soon as one is lost of his culture, he becomes an animal. Dharmeṇa hīnāḥ paśubhiḥ samānāḥ. That is the difference between human being and animal. Human being must be with culture. Animal cannot be cultured. So a human being without culture, he's no better than animal. That culture is lost. They have missed the aim of life.</p>
<p>Revatīnandana: They think they have culture.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: What is this culture? A human being is killing so many animals, innocent animals, is that culture? They are less than animals. Who kills? The tiger kills, ferocious. A human being killing innocent animals... In Christian religion, therefore: "Thou shall not kill." But they are killing only. Where is the culture? Killing culture. That is not culture. What do you think?</p>
<p>David Wynne: It must be so. Yes.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. How a human being can kill another human being or another animal unnecessarily? And if you kill, there is law, life for life. But they have made laws for human beings. When an animal is killed, he's not criminal. But in the God laws you cannot avoid that. If you have killed an ant, you must be shot. That is God's law. You can avoid man-made law, but you cannot avoid God-made law. That you cannot do. You must be responsible. If you kill an ant even without knowledge, you are responsible. Such subtle laws are there. So we must know our responsibility. Without knowledge, if we kill, we are responsible. And with knowledge, there is no question. Where is that culture? They advertise, "Live and let live." What is that? Do they do that? Actually? They want to live at the expense of others. Why not let live others? Where is that culture?</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: Now there is a famous cinema being shown called "Live and Let Die."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is good culture. Yes.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: Favorite. Everyone likes it.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Let others die; you live.</p>
<p>David Wynne: And yet, Arjuna had to fight in the war, didn't he?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm?</p>
<p>David Wynne: In the Bhagavad-gītā, he still had to... But it didn't matter him killing if it was Kṛṣṇa's responsibility?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No. Fighting or killing, when it is done for, under the guidance of Kṛṣṇa, that is a different thing.</p>
<p>David Wynne: Yeah, I see.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Just like a soldier fights on behalf of the king, and the more he kills, he gets medal. The same soldier, as soon as kills one man, he's hanged. He cannot say, the soldier, that "In the battlefield I killed hundreds and hundreds men and I was rewarded. Now I have killed only one man, I am being hanged? What is this?" Why? He's hanged. Because he killed on his own account.</p>
<p>David Wynne: There's the thing.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: And in the battlefield he killed on the state's account. He was rewarded. So there is difference between killing.</p>
<p>David Wynne: Yeah.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: When there is real, righteous fight, for good cause, that fighting is all right. Just like the state gives punishment one person, "This man should be hanged. Kill him." So who is blaming the state, "Oh, the state is killing this man?" That is right. It is good for him. In Manu-saṁhitā there is good background. So similarly, everything is good when it is done for the good. And God is good. That is Kṛṣṇa conscious move... And everything is bad when it is done for māyā. That's all. So these wars are declared not for Kṛṣṇa's sake; by the politicians' whims. So they must be responsible for this war.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: Like the Vietnam, you mean?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Any, any war. They create whimsical... Anything you do whimsically, you are responsible. Anything you do. Why fighting? Anything.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: Yeah. It's funny that that John F. Kennedy, he started that Vietnam war, and he was shot down later.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: He started that war?</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: Yeah.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: What is the position now? Nixon? He's going to be impeached? Yes.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: Practically, he is, without...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: He's cornered now.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: Yeah. He's lost all respect.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Prestige. Still if he sticks to his position, that is his foolishness. He should have resigned. If, if... Upright man: "All right, you do not like me. I resign." Then whole thing would have been quashed off. But he's a foolish man. He's sticking to his position.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: Prasādam...?</p>
<p>Bhagavān: Prasādam will be here in a few minutes. Our position, I guess, is just to make it an easy choice for people.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Paramahaṁsa: To come to Kṛṣṇa consciousness.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But choice means, a child cannot be given for choice. He must be forced. Right child is a rascal. So you cannot give him choice. He must do it. That's all.</p>
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