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[[Category:Questions asked to Srila Prabhupada]]
[[Category:Questions asked to SP... 1977]]
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div class="heading">Hm? No. That is not rāgānugā.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversations -- February 20, 1977, Mayapura|Room Conversations -- February 20, 1977, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Their argument will be that "By illusion, you are thinking there is an alternative world."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: It may be illusion to you. It is fact to us.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: "But so it is fact to a lunatic," they'll say, "that he also has his mind thinking something. You are simply dreaming."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But we may be dreaming, but factually what you have done? Ours may be dreaming, but yours, factually what you have done? You could not stop birth, death, old age, and disease. But I am suffering from this disease. You cannot stop it. I'll die. You cannot stop it.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, they have no answer for that.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then? But we may be dreaming.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That point they'll press. They'll press that point, that... That's what they all think. When I talk to anybody I meet, they think that we are describing some fairy tale, Kṛṣṇaloka.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That's all right. What is your actual fact! (long pause) (breaks) But when they take it as a serious thing in life, oh, everyone will be happy. Everyone will be...</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That hasn't come yet.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That has not come. We want to introduce.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: More spontaneous.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is sure. Anyone who will take it, he will have the benefit. Such a civilization.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Is that described as rāgānugā-bhakti?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm? No. That is not rāgānugā.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, I mean when it's more spontaneous.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is rāgānugā.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This is vaidhī-bhakti.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This is... I am speaking from my realization. It is not superficial.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No. Our platform now is simply on your order we are doing.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Even there was no such suffering. Just like I am suffering now. It is due to so many irregularities. So many. For preaching I have violated so many things. What can be done? As far as possible, I have kept pace.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: (chuckling) No one could do what you have done, Prabhupāda.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: How I can... Main business is how to... Gaura-vāṇī-pracāriṇe. "Let them first of all, somehow or other, yena tena prakāreṇa. Then I shall impose rules and regulations and regulative..." He has... You have not seen from the very beginning. They have seen. I worked very hard. Two times lectures, cooking, and meeting and twenty-four-hours writing book, typing. Not a single moment, and still I am not wasting single moment.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No. Always thinking of Kṛṣṇa.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: I was giving two tapes daily.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I remember.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Two tapes daily regularly. Bhagavad-gītā and Bhāgavata. Sometimes Brahmānanda was typing, sometimes Satsvarūpa, sometimes one boy, Neil, he was typing. He was very good typist.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Stryadhīśa.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Sometimes in San Francisco one girl was typing. I was giving them sufficient work. Hayagrīva was typing.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You had everyone busy trying to keep up. Even now I see that you're not at all wasting a second. Even in the middle of the night you call...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, that, my... This is my childhood practice. I do not like to see anything wasted, nor I waste. I have told you many times that on the street I am going and seeing tap is open. I don't liked to see. I stop. Why it should be wasted?</p>
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