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[[Category:Questions asked to Srila Prabhupada]]
[[Category:Questions asked to SP... 1976]]
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div class="heading">Because he has approached Kṛṣṇa.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- June 18, 1976, Toronto|Morning Walk -- June 18, 1976, Toronto]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Devotee: Then how does he explain how so many devotees can live together peacefully and happily if there's no reciprocation of love? Materialists can't even live together with their wife for very long.</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: (break) Śrīla Prabhupāda, they're simply interested in human flesh. They're not concerned about all the animal slaughter that's going on. They don't take objection to the animal slaughter, the animal flesh. But when it comes to the human flesh, because they think they can enjoy, then they take some concern.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: They are taking human flesh also. Gradually they will be accustomed to take human flesh. Carnivore also. (break) ...Mahāprabhu said, asat eka strī-saṅgī, strī-saṅgī, those who are attached to woman, he's asat.</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: (break) The question might arise that a jñānī is someone who is aware of his spiritual nature, that he's not this body, ahaṁ brahmāsmi. Then the karmī is one who is, dehātma-buddhi, in the bodily concept of life, and he's desiring so many materialistic things. So how can it be that the karmī, who is after some material benefit, if he approaches Kṛṣṇa, he can be better off than the jñānī?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Because he has approached Kṛṣṇa.</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Even he may be in the bodily concept?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. That will be rectified. Kṣipraṁ bhavati dharmātmā. Huh? What is that? Kaunteya pratijānīhi na me bhaktaḥ praṇaśyati ([[Vanisource:BG 9.31|BG 9.31]]). Api cet sudurācāro bhajate mām ananya-bhāk ([[Vanisource:BG 9.30|BG 9.30]]). When one has come to the fire, some way or other, he'll be warm, gradually. That is the.... He has come to the right path. (break) ...kāmād bhayāt, krodhāt. Either.... Anyone who comes to Kṛṣṇa.... Just like gopīs, they were captivated. They were village girls. They did not know what is God, what is Brahman, nothing. But they were captivated: "Kṛṣṇa is very beautiful boy." That's all. Even they forgot their own husbands. (break) ...or other, we have to develop our intense love of Kṛṣṇa. Then life is perfect. (break) (in car) One who is accepting this body as self, sa eva go-kharaḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 10.84.13|SB 10.84.13]]). They are making paper?</p>
<p>Devotee: Tar.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: From tar, you find paper?</p>
<p>Viśvakarmā: Yes. All different types of packaging have (indistinct) as well.</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: They keep salt in here for...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Salt?</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: When it snows on the highways, trucks come and they pour salt so it keeps the snow melting. More friction on the road for the tires.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Wine and cigarettes, just like here you can purchase by slot. What is called?</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: Machine.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Machine. Yes. You pay and get cigarette and tin can. There are many boxes like that on the street, public street. And they pass urine on the road. There is no restriction, standing apart.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: Like dogs and cats.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Every few steps, there is a shop, young girls, wine, and a man is sitting.</p>
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