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[[Category:Questions asked to Srila Prabhupada]]
[[Category:Questions asked to SP... 1975]]
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<div class="heading">(laughs) They are killing actually. They are maintaining slaughterhouse. What kind of Christian they are, I do not know.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 28, 1975, Honolulu|Morning Walk -- May 28, 1975, Honolulu]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Guest (1) (Gentleman): What kind of a sect are you?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa conscious.</p>
<p>Guest (1): Christian what?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa conscious, just tell him.</p>
<p>Bali-mardana: Kṛṣṇa consciousness.</p>
<p>Guest (1): Oh.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: God conscious.</p>
<p>Guest (1): Oh. What country are you from?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: India.</p>
<p>Guest (1): India. Well, I'll tell you. It's sort of interesting. I hope you don't feel any affront. And what are you doing now, sort of a meditation?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: We are chanting. Chanting the holy name of God.</p>
<p>Guest (1): Uh huh.</p>
<p>Devotee: Our whole purpose is to serve God and to revive our love for God.</p>
<p>Guest (1): Sure. That's right. I understand that, and, you know, I'm very broad-minded. I always have said... You know, one time in our Methodist church we had a professor that was giving all religions of the world. And this is rather putting it simply and fast, but it was interesting because of all the different religions, even though they all didn't believe in the divine being, Christ being the son of God, in some cases-there's Buddha and so forth—but they all were preaching about going to the same place, so to speak. And it's peculiar. They all had more or less the Ten Commandments. In other words they all believed in doing the same thing. So that was interesting...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But I don't think Christians believe.</p>
<p>Guest (1): So I know you people are good, just as good as I am. Bless you all, and I wish I and all of us were better.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Do you think Christians believe in the Ten Commandments?</p>
<p>Guest (1): We think we do, I guess, but we don't practice it, you know.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Christ says, "Thou shalt not kill." So why they are killing?</p>
<p>Guest (1): Yes, you're right. But, you know, up the road someplace maybe there's an answer.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Hmm?</p>
<p>Guest (1): Maybe up the road there's an answer someplace, but we're too slow in arriving there.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: There is no answer. The Lord says, "Thou shalt not kill." Why you are killing? Who is a Christian? If you don't obey the order of Christ, how you become a Christian? You cannot say that you are Christian if you disobey the order of Christ.</p>
<p>Guest (1): Yes, I know. You're right. You can't kill...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: If you don't carry out the order of the government, then you are not a good citizen.</p>
<p>Guest (1): Now, you look like you're either English or...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: We are neither English nor American. We are servant of God.</p>
<p>Guest (1): I know. You're brotherhood of man. But just my own curiosity... Of course, you have converts of all...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No convert. Actually we are. Just like you have got this different dress from me. That does not mean you are convert to the dress. You are a gentleman; I am a gentleman. That's all.</p>
<p>Guest (1): I don't know whether I'm a gentleman or not. I'm just a man, and pretty lowly as far as my own opinion's concerned.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So different dress does not mean converts. We are in different dress, American body or Indian body or this body, black body or... This is body. But we are within the body.</p>
<p>Guest (1): What is the symbol of the staff here? There's a symbol of that, is there?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is a big thing to be understood. (laughter)</p>
<p>Guest (1): Can't be answered in one sentence, huh?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is the symbol... That requires good explanation. If you come to our temple, then we shall inform you.</p>
<p>Devotees: Jaya. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya.</p>
<p>Guest (1): (laughs) Good talking to you folks. You know...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Wherefrom you are coming?</p>
<p>Guest (1): Indianapolis, Indiana. You ever hear of that? Yes. Five-hundred-mile race.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: It is in America?</p>
<p>Gurukṛpa: It's the all-American city.</p>
<p>Guest (1): You know where the Great Lakes are in the United States? Just right down south from there, about a hundred, 150 miles south of Indianapolis.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: We have no temple there?</p>
<p>Śrutakīrti: No.</p>
<p>Gurukṛpa: We've been there many times for saṅkīrtana.</p>
<p>Guest (1): Well, you folks are good people. God bless you. And, you know, sometimes it takes a little nerve to come up and stop you. But I was just curious. An awful lot of people might be, and they do a little staring, but they never get enough guts up to stop and talk to you. And I thought I'd do that. It's nice talking to you.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Thank you.</p>
<p>Gurukṛpa: Hare Kṛṣṇa. Can you say that?</p>
<p>Guest (1): Can I say what?</p>
<p>Gurukṛpa: Hare Kṛṣṇa.</p>
<p>Guest (1): Hariyay Kṛṣṇa? Hare Kṛṣṇa.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, that's nice. Very good. (man departs)</p>
<p>Devotee: Should we tell all Christians like that, Śrīla Prabhupāda? That they're killing?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: (laughs) They are killing actually. They are maintaining slaughterhouse. What kind of Christian they are, I do not know.</p>
<p>Gurukṛpa: He admitted it, that they say it, but they really don't follow it.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: If you don't follow the Christian principles, then how you are a Christian? Just to make a show-bottle. They don't believe in next life, don't believe in the Ten Commandments. Christ said, "Thou shalt not kill," and they killed first of all Christ. This is the followers. The instruction is "Thou shall not kill," but they said, "First of all let us kill you. Then we shall follow your instruction." This is the...</p>
<p>Gurukṛpa: "That's all right, though. We have been saved. We have been saved by Christ. We have accepted the baptism, so we are saved."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. So what is the use of their church and preaching?</p>
<p>Devotee: Well, we want to tell the others so they can also be saved.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, the Christian churches, all the priests, they eat meat. They're supporting everything, homosex, everything, man to man marriage.</p>
<p>Bali-mardana: Now they are making women the priests.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Women priest. Women priest, there was none before?</p>
<p>Bali-mardana: No.</p>
<p>Gurukṛpa: Still not very much.</p>
<p>Bali-mardana: The Protestants.</p>
<p>Gurukṛpa: That is a nice pandal.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. We shall go farther or return? (break)</p>
<p>Gurukṛpa: He was from a small city. He knew us, and he'd seen us before. People, they can't help but notice us. (break)</p>
<p>Devotee (2): ...follow Kṛṣṇa consciousness very strictly and very seriously like, say, for the rest of our lives, is there a chance that we'll be able to see Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa in this life?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Certainly. You read Bhagavad-gītā?</p>
<p>Devotee (2): Yes.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So there is stated, "If you simply try to understand Kṛṣṇa, then you go back to home." Janma karma ca me divyam ([[Vanisource:BG 4.9|BG 4.9]]). That is stated. If you simply understand how Kṛṣṇa takes birth, how He goes away, why does He come, what is His mission, these things, if you can understand, then you are a fit candidate to go back to home. So that is explained everything in the Bhagavad-gītā. You try to understand. Then you are guaranteed. Where is the difficulty? And if you think, "Kṛṣṇa is an ordinary man like us," then finished. Then do not understand Kṛṣṇa. If you simply accept this word faithfully, vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19|BG 7.19]]), "Everything is Kṛṣṇa," then your knowledge is perfect.</p>
<p>Devotee (3): Even if we don't understand Kṛṣṇa completely... Even if we don't understand Kṛṣṇa completely, if we just...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This is complete understanding, that "Everything is Kṛṣṇa." That's all. That is a fact. Everything is the energy of Kṛṣṇa. Just like in this material world everyone knows everything is the sunshine. Due to the sunshine, everything is coming. That's a fact. Science...</p>
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