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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="4" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1971 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1971 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div class="heading">Their way and our way is completely different. No, no. Anywhere within this material world, they are all conditioned souls. Their understanding is incomplete. Even Brahmā. Even Brahmā. Brahmā has admitted in his prayers that people..."Other rascal may say that he has understood You, but for my part, I say I never understood You." He has said like that. Have you read this portion? So even Brahmā cannot understand.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- August 17, 1971, London|Room Conversation -- August 17, 1971, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa is not understandable does not mean that we are also as fool as they are. Rather, Kṛṣṇa is so big that He is understandable even by us, and what to, about these rascals. What you can understand? We cannot understand. This should be the position, that "We are constantly serving Kṛṣṇa, we cannot understand Him. And what, rascal, you can understand?" The attitude should be taken like that.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: We just accept whatever Kṛṣṇa says...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That's it.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: That's a fact and that's all. And we serve Kṛṣṇa. In the material sense, people try to understand a thing without, by inspecting it.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Without knowing his capacity. He has no capacity, still, he wants... And when he's caught that "You have no capacity," "No, I am trying. I am trying." He won't say that "I have no capacity."</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: Or "I will understand."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: "I will understand."</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: "In the future."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Obstinacy.</p>
<p>Revatīnandana: So we always try to understand as far as possible. And then when we don't understand...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: As far as we know from sādhu-guru-śāstra. That's all. That is our understanding.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: Yes. We can't extend it any further by our own...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No. Don't try to extend also.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: Like that business about the soul in the table. I just completely changed everything we've done so far.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Therefore Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura said that "Whatever I heard from my guru, that is my life. That's all. Let me execute that."</p>
<p>Revatīnandana: That was semantics. That was word usage. That's why we got confused. And now I can clear up the confusion I stirred up. Thank you very much.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: But I have one more question Prabhupāda.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: On the light.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: In our world here, there are material scientists and they understand things in a particular way. They understand, for instance...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Their way and our way is completely different.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: I know. But I mean, there must be... Suppose, on the heavenly planets, there must also be a class of men who understand things...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no. Anywhere within this material world, they are all conditioned souls. Their understanding is incomplete. Even Brahmā. Even Brahmā. Brahmā has admitted in his prayers that people..."Other rascal may say that he has understood You, but for my part, I say I never understood You." He has said like that. Have you read this portion? So even Brahmā cannot understand. What we? He says, "The other rascals may say." Where is that Brahma-stotra? In the first part, find out.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: No. It's in the Process of Creation isn't it?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no. In Kṛṣṇa Book. Where is that...? This is second part. I say always that...</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: Second part?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is Volume Two. No, no. It is not in Volume Two.</p>
<p>Revatīnandana: It's in Volume One, when Brahmā kidnaps the cowherd boys. When I went to Paris, they had gotten all confused. Someone was thinking that Brahmā, Lord Brahmā is not a pure devotee, because...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: In one sense, not. In one sense.</p>
<p>Revatīnandana: By his behavior sometimes...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no, behavior... Because he is in the material world, he wants to lord it over. But a pure devotee has no such desire.</p>
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