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<div class="heading">In my presence one should not become guru, so on my behalf, on my order... Āmāra ājñāya guru hañā. Be actually guru, but by my order.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:GBC Meets with Srila Prabhupada -- May 28, 1977, Vrndavana|GBC Meets with Srila Prabhupada -- May 28, 1977, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Satsvarūpa: Then our next question concerns initiations in the future, particularly at that time when you're no longer with us. We want to know how first and second initiation would be conducted.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. I shall recommend some of you. After this is settled up, I shall recommend some of you to act as officiating ācāryas.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Is that called ṛtvik-ācārya?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Ṛtvik, yes.</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa: Then what is the relationship of that person who gives the initiation and the...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: He's guru. He's guru.</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa: But he does it on your behalf.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. That is formality. Because in my presence one should not become guru, so on my behalf, on my order... Āmāra ājñāya guru hañā ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 7.128|CC Madhya 7.128]]). Be actually guru, but by my order.</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa: So they may also be considered your disciples.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, they are disciples. Why consider? Who?</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, he's asking that these ṛtvik-ācāryas, they're officiating, giving dīkṣā. Their... The people who they give dīkṣā to, whose disciple are they?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: They're his disciple.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They're his disciple.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Who is initiating. He is granddisciple.</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa: Yes.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That's clear.</p>
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