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<h2>Lectures</h2>
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<h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3>
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That is bhakti, no other business. Anyābhilāṣitā-śūnyam. Śūnyam means zero. You are singing, āra nā kariha mane āśā. Make all . . . (break). They could not understand. They are so much atheistic that it was impossible for them to understand what is God, what is devotion. So therefore Lord Buddha propounded the philosophy, "Make your all nonsense activities zero, so much. First of all make zero, then positive we shall say." That is zero movement, śūnyavādī, śūnyavādī. At least, if a rascal children is always doing something nonsense, then first of all stop him. Make him zero.
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[[Vanisource:760609 - Lecture SB 06.01.43 - Los Angeles|760609 - Lecture SB 06.01.43 - Los Angeles]]
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So Yamarāja is for this purpose. When we are punished, that is no envious, envy on the part of God or His agent; it is our correction. I think the Yamarāja, er, the Yamadūtas said in the beginning that "We have come to take Ajāmila just to correct him." So dharma and adharma . . . Our real dharma is to serve God. That is our real duty. And as soon as we neglect this permanent service or occupation, then we are liable to be punished. You cannot become independent of God. That is not possible. That will make you happy. The healthy condition of the finger is that it is able to serve the body. If the finger is not able to serve the body, that will mean unhealthy. Otherwise . . . Similarly, when we are engaged in Kṛṣṇa consciousness and engaged in service of the Lord, that is our healthy state. That is mukti, liberation. Mukti means no disease. So when we deny to serve Kṛṣṇa, when we are not engaged in the service of Kṛṣṇa, that is our diseased condition; that is not healthy condition.

So this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is a treatment to cure this disease, atheist and rogues, to come to Kṛṣṇa consciousness and be happy. This is Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. It is not an artificial thing to give you facility for your sense gratification. No. There is no question of sense gratification. That is disease. The healthy state is how to satisfy Kṛṣṇa. That is bhakti. Bhakti definition, you know:

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:anyābhilāṣitā-śūnyaṁ
:jñāna-karmādy-anāvṛtam
:ānukūlyena kṛṣṇānu-
:śīlanaṁ bhaktir uttamā 
:(Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu 1.1.11)
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That is bhakti, no other business. Anyābhilāṣitā-śūnyam. Śūnyam means zero. You are singing, āra nā kariha mane āśā. Make all . . . (break). They could not understand. They are so much atheistic that it was impossible for them to understand what is God, what is devotion. So therefore Lord Buddha propounded the philosophy, "Make your all nonsense activities zero, so much. First of all make zero, then positive we shall say." That is zero movement, śūnyavādī, śūnyavādī. At least, if a rascal children is always doing something nonsense, then first of all stop him. Make him zero. Then good lesson: "Come. Do this." So this Buddhist movement means to make their atheistic activities zero. At least that is good. It is better not to . . . Maunam, silent. Instead of talking all nonsense, better be silent; don't create disturbance. So . . . And the other movement, nirviśeṣa-vādī, are giving little hint, Śaṅkarācārya, Māyāvāda, that "Yes, this zero is not sufficient. There is positive: brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā." His movement was that "This material world is false; make it zero. But there is a positive thing, which is Brahman." What is that Brahman, he did not disclose.

Then the Vaiṣṇava ācāryas, Rāmanujācārya, Madhvācārya, they said, brahma satya. And what is Brahman? Brahmeti paramātmeti bhagavān iti śabdyate ([[Vanisource:SB 1.2.11|SB 1.2.11]]). Brahman, first realization, impersonal; then localized; then person. Just like Kṛṣṇa says in the Bhagavad-gītā, imaṁ vivasvate yogaṁ proktavān aham avyayam ([[Vanisource:BG 4.1 (1972)|BG 4.1]]): "Long, long years ago, millions of years ago, I spoke this philosophy to the sun god, Vivasvān." So Kṛṣṇa, as He was instructing Arjuna, similarly, He was instructing the sun god that . . . Arjuna is a person. Kṛṣṇa is a person. Similarly, sun god is also a person, and Kṛṣṇa is a person. And Kṛṣṇa says in the Second Chapter of Bhagavad-gītā that "My dear Arjuna, you, Me, and all of them who are standing here in this battlefield, we were existing in the past, we are existing now, and we shall continue to exist."
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