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<h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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One of their conclusions has been to be able to make one element to change into another element. They were able to take iron and transform it into chrome by chemical process, almost like alchemy, he says. And this was very startling for the scientific world.
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Prabhupāda: This is nice. Actually, it is so.

Dr. Sallaz: And our last official result is, of course, a scandal for the orthodox world. We did transmute matter from one to another. We achieved transmutation like alchemists in the Middle Age, you see. And a single element which is called iron, we make from it chrome, which is another single element. And it is so revolutionary that we had the experimentation made completely not from our side but from official organization in France. (French with Yogeśvara)

Yogeśvara: What he says is that the final conclusion of their research work has been . . .

Dr. Sallaz: One of them.

Yogeśvara: One of their conclusions has been to be able to make one element to change into another element. They were able to take iron and transform it into chrome by chemical process, almost like alchemy, he says. And this was very startling for the scientific world.

Dr. Sallaz: Result. Result, only with physical heat, eight hundred, and pressure, only this. No laser, no atomic energy, nothing at all. Simply by natural measures.

Prabhupāda: We can give you one information that metals like bell metal . . . bell metal is combination of . . .? What is called? Tin? Tin? What is another name of tin?

Yogeśvara: Copper?

Prabhupāda: Anyway, tin and copper and mercury, if you can mix, it will become gold.

Dr. Sallaz: I'm sure it is possible . . .

Prabhupāda: Huh?

Yogeśvara: He says he's sure that is possible.

Dr. Sallaz: I'm sure it is possible from what we have seen and made. But it is not of great interest to make gold. (laughs)

Prabhupāda: No, we are interested. (laughter) We want gold for spreading Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Nobody is paying us. We are simply selling our books. That's all. Nobody paying us, no government, no . . . that, "You take so many million dollars for spreading Kṛṣṇa . . ." Nobody. Therefore we require some gold. So biology, what is the basic principle of biology?

Yogeśvara: Do you understand his question?

Dr. Sallaz: Yes. Le principe, c'est la vie, life. And what is life? It is energy, speaking in European language.

Prabhupāda: Life, what is this life?

Yogeśvara: He says it is energy, life is energy.

Dr. Sallaz: Life is immaterial.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Whose energy? Whose energy? Where from the energy comes?

Dr. Sallaz: From very, very high up.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. Yes. It is . . . this matter is also energy, and life is also energy. So according to Bhagavad-gītā this life, or the living being, is superior energy, and the matter is inferior energy. So this living being is combination of the superior and inferior energy. But the superior energy is not matter. It is spirit.
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