Prabhupāda: There are two kinds of smell: bad smell and good smell. So when you smell a nice flower, puṇya-gandhaḥ, you remember Kṛṣṇa, "Here is Kṛṣṇa. Here is Kṛṣṇa." Puṇyo-gandhaḥ pṛthivyāṁ ca.
Mr. Sar: Tejaś cāsmi vibhāvasau.
Prabhupāda: When we . . . when you find vibhūtimat sattvaṁ, a very powerful man, a powerful elephant, you should . . . you know that, "There is Kṛṣṇa. This power is Kṛṣṇa."
Dr. Patel: This is standard nyāya.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Mr. Sar:
- yad yad vibhūtimat sattvaṁ
- śrīmad ūrjitam eva vā
- tat tad evāvagaccha tvaṁ
- mama tejo-'ṁśa-sambhavam
- (BG 10.41)
Prabhupāda: So where is the difficulty to understand Kṛṣṇa? (laughs) Every moment you can remember Kṛṣṇa. Every moment you can see Kṛṣṇa, provided you have got eyes. Premāñjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena santaḥ sadaiva hṛdayeṣu vilokayanti (Bs. 5.38). Santaḥ. So you have to become a santa, perfect santa. Then you'll see Kṛṣṇa always.
Mr. Sar: Jīvanaṁ sarva-bhūteṣu tapaś cāsmi tapasviṣu (BG 7.9).
Dr. Patel: The very life of every individual is Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Dr. Patel: Jīvanaṁ sarva-bhūteṣu.
Prabhupāda: Yes. So without Kṛṣṇa, as soon as . . . so long the Paramātmā is there . . . or the jīva is there. Jīva is also Kṛṣṇa, because part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa, acintya-bhedābheda. So, so long Kṛṣṇa is there, either as ātmā or Paramātmā, then the body's moving. But the so-called scientists, they do not know. Therefore they do not understand what is Kṛṣṇa.
Dr. Patel: Scientists have started understanding Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: They are standing?
Dr. Patel: They have started understanding Kṛṣṇa now. Scientists.
Prabhupāda: Now, here is the . . . this is very simple. A child can understand. Here is a dead body, and here is a living body. What is the difference? That Kṛṣṇa is not there, and here is Kṛṣṇa. That's all.
Dr. Patel: That is what I say . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes. But these rascal scientists will not understand this.