Svarūpa Dāmodara: Ultimately, find there is no death.
Prabhupāda: No, what . . .? Death is . . . what do you mean by death?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Losing the material body.
Prabhupāda: Yes. So that you are losing every day, every moment. You are not today what you were yesterday, that you are losing. So how can you defeat? You are, every moment you are being defeated.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: There are some theories now. By turning the temperature, by cooling down little more than the body temperature, you can live longer.
Prabhupāda: Well, you can live little longer, but you cannot live forever. That is not possible.
Umāpati: They're freezing the body now, Prabhupāda, in the hopes that sometime in the future science will be able to make them come back to life.
Prabhupāda: That is all future. That is all future.
Hṛdayānanda: They take so much money for it.
Prabhupāda: It is not practical.
Karandhara: The trouble is, when they lower the body temperature, the sensitivity is lowered. Therefore enjoyment is also lowered. So it's a question of living for a few more years and enjoying less or enjoying more and living less.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: But the government is very kind to them. They supply money to do research on that—thousands of dollars.
Prabhupāda: And what is the government? Combination of some rascals. That's all. You are a rascal, you vote another rascal, and they combine together and become government. None of them are intelligent. I am rascal, so I must vote another rascal. And all those combination of rascals become government. And they cheat another, the rascals who voted them. That's all. Therefore it is a society of cheater and cheated.