Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, by the time we were selling, you were printing about three thousand, and we were selling twenty-five hundred.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Then I asked Brahmānanda that "Why not print it nicely?" So he said that "Unless we print twenty thousand, nobody will take this work." And "All right, order twenty thousand." Now, from twenty thousand or five hundred, what is the quantity now we are printing?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Not less than five hundred thousand a month.
Bhakti-caru: Two million.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Sometimes more.
Bhakti-caru: Mahārāja, in all languages it's two million.
Prabhupāda: And so beautiful printing, picture and... The beginning was three hundred, and Gargamuni, he took away somebody's hand cart.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He what?
Prabhupāda: It was on the street.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He took a hand cart.
Prabhupāda: And he was putting the magazines on the hand cart, selling near cinema and other crowded places. That is very good... So it was a hard struggle in the beginning.
Mr. Myer: The article of this, especially with the head of London Times and other people, they're very good. Lots of people asking all sorts of questions about them.
Prabhupāda: No, our Bengali... Bhagavāner-kathā, they have been very much appreciated. How many they'll sell?
Bhakti-caru: We printed, last issue, thirty thousand issues here.
Prabhupāda: Just see.
Bhakti-caru: And one of them, here. First issue was ten thousand. The second issue was twenty thousand. Third issue was thirty thousand. And first and second was sold out in three weeks.
Prabhupāda: And we have got many appreciator.
Bhakti-caru: Yes. Many people are taking up this spiritual life after reading those.
Mr. Myer: It is a conscious reminder, month after month. Each time a new issue comes...
Prabhupāda: That requires management. That requires management, how...
Mr. Myer: Once one takes up a certain life...
Prabhupāda: ...to set up things, how to come...
Mr. Myer: ...even one is slipping...
Prabhupāda: So do nicely. And as far as our capacity is there, kṛṣṇārthe akhila-ceṣṭaḥ. Prāṇair arthair dhiyā vācā śreya-ācaraṇaṁ sadā. Janma-sāphalyam... Etāvaj janma-sāphalyam. Do it. Do this. Prāṇair arthair dhiyā vācā śreya-ācaraṇam. This is..., should be... This should be the motto, how we engage our life, our money, our intelligence, our words, to improve Kṛṣṇa consciousness. That is success. Varṇāśrama-vibhāgaśaḥ saṁsiddhir hari-toṣaṇam (SB 1.2.13). What is that verse, beginning?
Akṣayānanda: Ataḥ pumbhir dvija-śreṣṭhāḥ...
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Akṣayānanda: Ataḥ pumbhir dvija...
Prabhupāda: Ah, ataḥ pumbhir dvija-śreṣṭhāḥ...
Akṣayānanda: Varṇāśrama-vibhāgaśaḥ.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Svanuṣṭhitasya dharmasya...
Prabhupāda: Saṁsiddhir hari-toṣaṇam (SB 1.2.13). That is required. You... How do you know Morarji is interested in...?
Mr. Myer: Well, all the government bosses now, they have defined that "We don't want any big industry." They want all the people in villages. They don't want to use fertilizer.
Prabhupāda: Yes, this is our...
Mr. Myer: They want to use compost.
Prabhupāda: This is our...
Mr. Myer: That is what has been in Ahmedabad. I spent one night with Mahāṁśa Swami, and they are also digging up the pits. They are making their own fertilizer. Everything is... That's... You see, that's a policy of Ram Mandir's(?) because they want to create more jobs. The village must become very...
Prabhupāda: Let government help us. If they do not help us even with some men to stay here... Indians are not joining. But they are willingly joining, sacrificing everything.
Mr. Myer: No, but it is worked down now. You see, what it is people were not moved so much. I think...
Prabhupāda: And I want simply some of them to stay, not money. Money they are bringing. Whatever money we are spending here, Bombay, they are bringing. They are... I am writing books. They are selling books. I am working them always: "Make double. Make double." And they are bringing money. So we'll not touch even India's money a farthing. Let them stay here. "No, that is not... Get out. Get out. Get out. Get out." That's all.
Mr. Myer: Yes, the posts will change now because it is very good man over here, new business in America and on the Prime Minister.
Prabhupāda: And "Get out. Get out."
Mr. Myer: This "Get out..."
Prabhupāda: And "Get out" means another ten thousand rupees. He has to go out, again come back.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It's a big harassment.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Just like now...
Prabhupāda: How much harassment.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ...I still have to go...
Prabhupāda: The government is not helping me even in this way. What they'll do? And...
Mr. Myer: Because Indira Gandhi had very bad relations with America. This is the problem. And she was trying to make very bad propaganda about the ISKCON in India.
Prabhupāda: Ācchā?