Prabhupāda: So the whole civilization at the present moment they want to live like pig, and to live like pig they are working like an ass. And that is civilization, working like ass to become a pig. You tell them!
Harikeśa: They will get very angry.
Prabhupāda: Angry . . . With shoes. We beat them with shoes, that "You have created a civilization to work like ass, and ideal is to become a pig. What is this civilization? Śva-viḍ-varāhoṣṭra-kharaiḥ saṁstutaḥ puru . . . (SB 2.3.19). And for their votes you become a president. What you are better than a pig? A pig votes for another pig, big pig. That's all. How people will be happy?"
Harikeśa: You told them that in South Africa.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Did I say?
Harikeśa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: But they clapped.
Harikeśa: Yes. (laughter)
Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes. They appreciated. Although they do not take Indians very seriously . . .
Harikeśa: "Third-class citizens."
Prabhupāda: Third class. But they attended my lecture, they purchased my books, and they clapped.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh. South Africa is a . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes, South Africa. That I . . . Very much I was astonished that how these . . .
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Many of them?
Prabhupāda: Oh, many of them.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh. I thought only Indians attended.
Harikeśa: Oh, no.
Prabhupāda: No, no. White men. Yes. And in Melbourne the priests also appreciated. So any sane man will appreciate our, this Kṛṣṇa consciousness. These are very strong words, that "You have created a civilization of pig, and for making perfect that civilization you are working like ass." So what is the advancement? A ass is trying to become a pig. What is that civilization? So ideal is to become a pig, and for that, fulfillment of that idea, they are working like ass. Is it not? Just see. Think over.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: If we speak like that in the classrooms, whew!
Bhavānanda: They like it.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Very strong.