Yaśomatīnandana: Someone was telling me, and I was telling that if somebody is not following the particular characteristic of a saintly person mentioned in the śastra, they cannot be accepted as a sādhu. So he was trying to prove that some sādhus, so-called, who eat meat, and who are drinking, they were actually great paramahaṁsas. And then I... He said that because in the previous ages there is mention of... In the śāstras there is mention that there were many ṛṣis and munis who were eating meat.
Prabhupāda: He knows them. He is such a rascal that he knows only and nobody knows. That is the verdict of this Rāmakrishna Mission.
Yaśomatīnandana: They say that they would... These ṛṣis would kill one elephant or something like that, and they would live on him for whole year.
Prabhupāda: Where is that information? Where he got this information? You did not challenge?
Yaśomatīnandana: Well, I said that that muni must be just like the ṛṣis and munis you are talking about now.
Prabhupāda: We don't find any such thing. In this way they have ruined Indian culture by misquoting, by misleading.
Yaśomatīnandana: And he admitted that Vivekānanda smoked gañja and he was eating meat.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Yaśomatīnandana: But for such a soul, he said, there is no conditioning like that. Then, when you quote any verse from Bhagavad-gītā contrary to such statement, immediately he would say, "Well, Bhagavad-gītā is not the only scripture."