Prabhupāda: Well, you are coming, all right. But I have heard that there are fifty thousand Indians. So why they do not come?
Indian man (1): Maybe it's catching up now, more.
Prabhupāda: Is there any special reason, they can discuss with me, if one is interested.
Indian man (1): . . . (indistinct Hindi) discrimination may be . . . (indistinct Hindi) . . . the society here to accept this kind of thing, and people maybe don't want to align themselves with this kind of thing so that they are not ridiculed by others. This could be one of the reasons. Because, you know . . .
Prabhupāda: Ridicule?
Indian man (1): The method may be, they may think, maybe that it is too strong for people here to accept.
Prabhupāda: No, strong, disease Bhi to strong hai na. Jaisa disease vaisa davai hona chahiye. Ye jo bhagavan ko bhool jana aur sharab pina maas khana ye disease to he bhari. (The disease is also strong is it not? According to the disease, so the right medicine must be used. This forgetfulness of God and taking intoxicants, eating meat—this disease is very strong.) Jaya, Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Devotee (2): Many of them think we're fanatical, from Western countries.
Prabhupāda: Many? jaya Kya karan hai bhartiya log. (What is the reason the Indians.)
Indian man (2): I don't speak Hindi. I'm from South America, British Guinea.
Prabhupāda: So what is the reason the Indians are not coming in large numbers? They are coming, some.
Indian man (1): I think they are too much in māyā. (laughter)
Indian man (2): They want to be Kṛṣṇa.
Indian man (1): Everybody wants to be Kṛṣṇa themselves.
Prabhupāda: Rascal. (laughter) Everyone wants to become a rascal. Don't be that.
Indian man (1): . . . (indistinct Hindi)
Prabhupāda: Ye sab mayavadi ye log ko sikha diya sab jahanoom me jane ke liye. (All these Mayavadis have taught them to go to hell.) This is not good. Everyone wants to become Kṛṣṇa.
Śubhavilāsa: Or they're seeking for Kṛṣṇa in the material world.
Prabhupāda: Wo pahad utha sakta hai Krishna jaisa. (Can he lift the mountain like Krishna?) As Kṛṣṇa lifted the Govardhana Hill at seven years old, so can he do that? Then how he'll become Kṛṣṇa? Simply by imagination. kuch kar ke to dikhao. ye sab badmaashi kharab kar diya hai Hindu society ko.
Indian man (1): There are too many sections of religion, Hindu religion.
Prabhupāda: There cannot be any section. There are two section, demons and the demigods. That is the statement in the śāstra. Dvau bhūta-sargau loke 'smin daiva āsura eva ca (BG 16.6). There are two kinds of men: daiva and āsura. Viṣṇu-bhaktaḥ bhaved daiva āsuras tad-viparyayaḥ. So if they want to remain demons, that is their choice. But that will not help them.
Indian man (1): Most fortunate men try to follow Kṛṣṇa. The unfortunate try to follow . . .
Prabhupāda: So anyway, now it is Śubhavilāsa Prabhu's duty to bring these imitation Kṛṣṇas.
Devotees: Jaya.
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Indian man (3): Many, many good bhaktas are being spoiled by impersonalists nowadays . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes. You are personalist or impersonalist? He is personalist. (laughter) Hari-nāma karo mala hai to japo. (Do Harinam, if you have beads then chant.)