Prabhupāda: This Jawaharlal was implicated with his sister, and some say with his daughter also, and he was the prime minister. This is their position. In our Indian system, education is mātṛvat para-dāreṣu: (Cānakya Nīti) every woman except your own wife, all mothers. That is education. Mātrā svasrā duhitrā vā (SB 9.19.17).
Either your mother or sister or daughter, you don't live together alone. These are education. And they're freely advocating sex life. What is the . . . (indistinct) . . . difference? In India they're doing, so many leaders. ". . . (indistinct) . . . natural necessity, it can be done." The leaders are speaking while doing that. No discrimination, just like hog. No discrimination. (break)
Jayatīrtha: . . . in Īśopaniṣad that modern-day educational system means culturing avidyā.
Prabhupāda: Yes, avidyā.
Jayatīrtha: So they're spending so much, so many billions of rupees, simply to culture ignorance.
Prabhupāda: Making rogues and guṇḍās and hippies. That's all. The science is manufacturing atom bomb, and philanthropy is becoming hippies. This is the result of education. They are manufacturing compounds, strong contraceptive method, infallible contraceptive method. Suffering only. What is the time now?
Jayatīrtha: (indistinct) . . . minutes to seven.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: So this propensity will increase in this Kali-yuga.
Prabhupāda: Yes. (break)
Jayatīrtha: . . . so many riots by the students at the university there that the shopkeepers in the local area are suing the State because the windows have been broken so many times, and so much merchandise has been stolen by the students, they think the State should pay them back.