Prabhupāda: According to the direction of the Rāmānuja . . .
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Well, he'll have the Rāmānuja man make it. First he'll ask, "What are the ingredients?" Then he'll go and get those ingredients, and he'll bring it to the Rāmānuja man. And the Rāmānuja man will make it.
Prabhupāda: The man must be sincere and experienced.
Bhavānanda: Jaya Śrīla Prabhupāda. (whispering:) Tell Prabhupāda about that kavirāja.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Then, after that, he'll come directly to Māyāpur. The whole thing—how long will it take? About two days to get there? A day or two . . . maybe within a week's time he'll be in Māyāpur, Śrīla Prabhupāda, if they make it quickly.
Prabhupāda: It will take time, as he said.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: (aside) Paper . . . my pad is in . . . that man said it would take time. A week. Of course, we don't know if that's a fact or not. But it'll take about a week's time if it only takes a day or two. If it takes a week, then it may take a total of two weeks' time until he reaches Māyāpur. When Gopāla and Śatadhanya were in Delhi, they went to see one man who was a very important Marwari kavirāja. They asked him about the ingredients of makara-dhvaja.
Bhavānanda: They asked that question about what medicine the poor man would take.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What medicine the poor man would take. So he said: "Poor man or rich man, it doesn't matter. The price of it is about forty-eight rupees per tolā, because the gold that is given, it's given back at the end." It's just passed through, the gold. It's not utilized itself. So forty-eight rupees a tolā. This is what he said, very big Marwari kavirāja.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that I have heard.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So this Rāmānujī kavirāja was charging five hundred rupees a tolā. And Bonamali, when we gave him gold, he never returned any gold. So . . . this is the position—cheaters.
Prabhupāda: Bonamali was also.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Something. Anyway, before we leave I'm going to speak with Bhagatjī. Bhagatjī is the one who gave the gold and pearls to Bonamali. So I think Bhagatjī will be able to recover it. We'll leave this medicine with Bhagatjī, and he can give the medicine to Bonamali and take the money. (pause) So Smara-hari will be leaving today, just now. And we've already spoken with Delhi, and they're already going to purchase the airline tickets. Either we will leave Wednesday . . . today is Monday. Either we will leave Wednesday or we will leave Friday. We're not going to travel on Thursday. And they've already informed Calcutta and Māyāpur.
Prabhupāda: Who will go with me?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Your Divine Grace, Bhavānanda Mahārāja, myself, Bhakti-caru Mahārāja, Śatadhanya Mahārāja, Upendra Prabhu, Svarūpa Dāmodara, Bharadvāja. That'll be on the plane. Then in the train, Pradyumna, Arundhatī, some other devotees also. So eight of us will be going on the plane with you, seven plus Your Divine Grace, and you will have three seats. Altogether, we're purchasing ten seats. So I don't think there will be any difficulty. We're going in full team. Scientist is with us. In case of any special knowledge, Svarūpa Dāmodara will be there. Bhavānanda with his gun. (laughter) Full team. I think it will be a nice journey, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: I hope.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So now you'll have your bath, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay. Jaya Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Light?
Upendra: Light. (break)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ". . . miserable condition. Without your mercy there is no possibility of escaping the degrading influence of this Kali-yuga. Most merciful lord and master of the devotees, we have no shelter other than your lotus feet. By Kṛṣṇa's grace the most wonderful Janmāṣṭamī celebration was held at the Cato Ridge Farm āśrama in South Africa. The celebration included the opening of a new temple and prasādam facility." He sent a lot of pictures, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Amazing pictures.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This Tulasī dāsa has sent different things. Here's a news clipping from the Leader. It's a newspaper. It says: "Hare Kṛṣṇa festivity. All roads lead to the Hare Kṛṣṇa farm āśrama at Cato Ridge last Sunday where thousands of well-wishers and devotees celebrated Kṛṣṇa Janmāṣṭamī. His Holiness Śrīmān Jayatīrtha dāsa Prabhu came out especially from the United States for the occasion and to officiate at the opening of the new temple of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness." One picture shows the devotees . . . it says: "Members of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness and followers of A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda lead the crowd in the singing of Hare Kṛṣṇa kīrtana. In the foreground is the havana-kuṇḍa on which the sacrificial prayer was performed prior to the opening of the new temple. A view of the large gathering . . ." it shows thousands of people, Śrīla Prabhupāda, ". . . at the Hare Kṛṣṇa farm āśrama at Cato Ridge at the weekend when the new temple was officially opened. The function was held in conjunction with Lord Kṛṣṇa's birth anniversary celebrations." Here's the temple. "Head of the group, Tulasī dāsa, seen with other devotees in front of their new temple." It's a very beautiful temple with pillars and arches. I don't know how they built it so soon. (laughs) It's a big temple they built there. It says, "The International Society for Krishna Consciousness, more widely known as the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement, opened its temple to coincide with the celebration of the birth of Lord Kṛṣṇa. The Hare Kṛṣṇa devotees all over the world . . . this birthday celebration . . ." (break) Here's another article, pictures of devotees opening the temple. Another article. "Śrīmān Jayatīrtha dāsa Prabhu, one of the top officials . . ."
Prabhupāda: Still, they criticize us. Hmm? Affirmations, good character, good health . . .
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Another article says: "Procession draws hundreds. The hundreds lined the streets of Durban on Sunday to watch young and old Hindus taking part in the colorful procession which was held as part of Lord Kṛṣṇa's birthday celebration." It tells all about a celebration in the city of Durban organized by our society.
Prabhupāda: It will be good for propaganda.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: "Kṛṣṇa-aṣṭamī. Lord Kṛṣṇa's celebration." Full center page. "A voyage of discovery." "A Christian tribute to Kṛṣṇa consciousness," it says. There's a picture of Your Divine Grace here. It's an article reprinted from Back to Godhead. It says, "All material in this special feature taken from Back to Godhead, the official magazine of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness." This is all . . . it seems like what they have done . . . the same thing they did in Fiji, they have done there in South Africa. Because many of the articles . . . this is a whole . . . also all about our Society. All of these pages. "Hare Kṛṣṇa puzzle is unraveled." "Jagannātha car festival is one of the oldest in history." Then it tells about the program, how to get to the farm. Then he sent photographs. It's a very beautiful temple, Śrīla Prabhupāda. I don't know if you can see it. This is the temple. You see the white structure here? You can see it has arched domes? Not domes, but arches.
Prabhupāda: Very good.