Prabhupāda: What is that Rosicrucian?
Yogeśvara: Huh. It is a very big religious movement all around the world.
(Yogeśvara speaks in French with Mr. Belfiore and then translates for Śrīla Prabhupāda throughout)
He says: "Our movement is very well known in the United States. Have you never come across our Society?" No, I don't think . . .
Mr. Belfiore: (French)
Prabhupāda: What is the aim of this movement?
Mr. Belfiore: (French)
Yogeśvara: The evolution of man.
Prabhupāda: Evolution of man. So man is going to evolve more? What is that ultimate evolution?
Mr. Belfiore: (French)
Yogeśvara: To a reintegration of man with the cosmos, or cosmic consciousness.
Prabhupāda: Cosmic consciousness. We also believe individual consciousness and cosmic consciousness. We are now studying this subject matter in our class: kṣetra-kṣetra-jña. So kṣetra-jña, the knower . . . the individual soul is also knower, conscious, and the Supersoul, God, is also conscious. So we also admit universal consciousness, that is God's consciousness. (break) . . . consciousness is limited.
Mr. Belfiore: (French) (break)
Yogeśvara: . . . is studying the same thing.
Prabhupāda: Yes. So that is the evolution, when our consciousness is in agreement with the supreme consciousness. (break) That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
Mr. Belfiore: (French)
Yogeśvara: He says that the Rosicrucian order is a mystical and philosophical order that allows its students . . .
Prabhupāda: Who is Rosin? He is a philosopher?
Mr. Belfiore: (French)
Yogeśvara: He says that the term Rosicrucian means . . . it's an image of a cross with a rose in the center. It means that the disciple is aspiring towards the perfection of his consciousness, and that this also means the perfection of consciousness.