Prabhupāda: You do not know what is religion. Therefore we do not accept sentimental religion. We say it is cheating. Such kind of religion, we say it is cheating.
Harikeśa: You can't eat religion.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Harikeśa: If you spend all your days just chanting, how can you eat? Religion means you go to the church and you just pray.
Prabhupāda: And who says that religionists should not eat? Do we say . . .? We have ample prasādam to eat. It is already there. You are researching after food, starving dog. We don't research. There is food ready.
Harikeśa: But we're just exploiting.
Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa baḍa dayāmaya, karibāre jihvā jaya, sva-prasāda-anna dilā bhāi. Kṛṣṇa is ready. Take prasādam as much as you like.
Harikeśa: The Communists will say we're just exploiting.
Prabhupāda: The Communists may say, but we don't say. They are hungry people; they may say. We are not hungry. Our food is supplied by Kṛṣṇa. Yoga-kṣemaṁ vahāmy aham (BG 9.22). He brings food. So why should the Communists? So we shall go further or return? Hmm?
Haṁsadūta: Which way?
Devotee (2): Do you want to go further, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: I can go. What is time?
Harikeśa: Almost seven. (break)
Prabhupāda: . . . road?
Devotee (2): This is Curzon Road.
Prabhupāda: Caitan?
Devotee (2): Curzon Road.
Prabhupāda: Curzon Road. (break) . . . religion, we say "cheating religion." We don't accept sentimentally.
Harikeśa: Well, the sentiment is the faith. The dictionary definition, sentimentalism is the faith.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Faith is good, provided you have faith on the superior. That is good.
Harikeśa: So faith in knowledge.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Knowledge means received from the superior. Like the child gets knowledge from the father. That kind of faith is required. If the child does not believe the statement of father and mother, he cannot make any progress. If the child does not believe the statement of mother, he does not know who is his father. So there must be faith, faith in the right person. Then it is all right. If you have got faith in the person who has got eyes to lead you, then he will help you to cross the road. And if you put your faith to another blind man like you, then it will cause disaster. Faith is required, but to the right person. Then it will be all right.
If you know that one barber is honest, then you can make your neck like this and he is with a sharpened razor. But you have faith that "He will not cut my throat; he will shave me." This is faith. And if you do not know him, and if you put your neck like this and if he is a rogue, he will cut your throat. That's all. The same faith, if you put it to the right person, you become cleansed, shaved, and the same faith put in the wrong person—your throat is cut off. So you must know where to put the faith. So our Vedic injunction is: "Put your faith to the brahma-niṣṭam, one who is God-realized." Tad-vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum evābhigacchet samit-paniḥ śrotriyaṁ brahma-niṣṭam (MU 1.2.12): "One who has full knowledge in the Vedas and firmly fixed up in Brahman, God, you put your faith there." Otherwise there will be disaster. Right faith. (break) . . . you call Prabhākāra?
Tejiyas: I called him on the phone.
Prabhupāda: He is here?
Tejiyas: Yes. I don't know why he didn't come.
Harikeśa: So actually the one thing that makes Kṛṣṇa consciousness different from other religious processes is the practical application of knowledge.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Full knowledge, perfect knowledge. And other religious systems, they have no knowledge. They say of God something, but they do not know what is God. We know what is God and who is God. That is the difference.
Devotee (3): But they have no pure devotee in which to put their faith.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Devotee (3): They have no one in which to put their faith.
Prabhupāda: Whatever they may be, but because they do not know God, therefore it is cheating. Just see, India's capital, and so dirty thing.
Harikeśa: You were saying about Eisenhower and Nehru?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Harikeśa: Nehru was trying to hide the villages.
Prabhupāda: But any intelligent man can understand. Any foreigner who will come will understand how India is poverty-stricken by this picture.(?)
Harikeśa: It seems like the strongest preaching point, or platform, is the presence of a pure soul.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Harikeśa: The presence of a pure soul, someone who is wrapped up actually in love of God, is sufficient.
Prabhupāda: Faithful servant of God. He can preach. He is authorized. He has got the power of attorney. Kṛṣṇa śakti vina nahe nāma pracāra.
Harikeśa: I was thinking on Juhu Beach, these men have been walking by now for four years, and actually none of them have heard you speak, or maybe a few, but now they are all coming and touching your feet. (break)
Akṣayānanda: . . . two-year visas now, they must have more faith in you now, Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Akṣayānanda: They must have more faith in you now in India, because they're giving us two-year visa. Faith must be improving . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Akṣayānanda: . . . in the right person.
Prabhupāda: They should have that knowledge, that we are doing the best service to the humanity. It is better late than never. (break) . . . position so they may not lose their faith.