Prabhupāda: There is no question of argument.
Indian man: No no.
Prabhupāda: It is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā.
Indian man: Yes sir.
Prabhupāda: But if they do not accept Bhagavad-gītā as the authority, then they are fools.
Indian man: Yes, they are.
Prabhupāda: So fools cannot be enlightened. That is the difficulty.
Indian man: And this is one of the biggest problems.
Prabhupāda: If they do not accept the authority, then they are fools.
Indian man: Yes. After I teach Gītā and I try to tell them to please sing bhajan . . .
Prabhupāda: That is not their fault. Even the big, big leaders of India, even Gandhi, they do not know actually. Therefore we are presenting Bhagavad-gītā as it is. The Bhagavad-gītā has been misinterpreted, misused by the leaders, by the politicians, by the so-called philosophers. Everyone has misused Bhagavad-gītā.
Indian man: I'll tell you one thing, that Swami Chinmayananda . . .
Prabhupāda: He's a great . . .
Indian man: He's great, but I'll tell you what happened.
Prabhupāda: "Great" means great fool.
Indian man: Yes. In Third Chapter where Kṛṣṇa is saying: "Renounce your everything to Me." Okay? And the word matam is used, matam. Now Swami Chinmayananda is saying: "That's My opinion," that's what Kṛṣṇa is telling, and they will be freed of all the work. And you have written matam means scriptural injunctions. And I tried to show the students who come to the class that "This is the difference. Look at this, very big difference," because if Kṛṣṇa is only giving His opinion, then He's talking like a diplomat, not talking like God. But if He says: "This is the law . . ." And I explained to them that like Bible has got ten commandments . . .
Prabhupāda: And another thing, even Kṛṣṇa says, giving His opinion—that's taking it as it is—Kṛṣṇa says, mattaḥ parataraṁ nānyat (BG 7.7). So He's the supreme authority. So supreme authority's matam is a high court judgment. There is no argument anyone. The judgment is given by the high court. Final decision.