Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, yeah. Big personality. And because of the fact that he was an important member of the faculty at Harvard, so even though all he produced was an intoxicant, he gave it so much explanation, that "This is..."
Prabhupāda: Transcendental meditation.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, this is transcendental. "This is real psychotherapy," he called it. He made it seem like this is legitimate, this is a bona fide experiment, just like you go to a psychologist or psychiatrist. He tried to explain it as a medical drug for helping the mind. But as a result of it so many people became crazy by using it.
Prabhupāda: Howling.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I think you saw so many people who were taking it in America.
Prabhupāda: Seventy-five percent. Therefore Devānanda presented it: "Hare Kṛṣṇa movement is hippies' movement."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Devānanda. I remember at one initiation ceremony you asked... It was Kauśalyā. You said to her, "What are the four principles?" So she stated them. Then you said, "What is the fifth?" So she didn't know what to answer. Then you said, "No LSD."
Prabhupāda: This Kauśalyā girl was loitering in the street.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Who, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Kauśalyā.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Kauśalyā. In Hawaii.
Prabhupāda: Yes. No protection. Somehow or other, she came to see me when I got into Los Angeles.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: In that way you saved all of us, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Yes.