Prabhupāda: Ahaṅkāra-vimūḍhātmā kartāham iti manyate (BG 3.27). So on the whole, people are in darkness. And that is going on as advancement. This is the only institution to give them some light. There is no doubt about it. All in the darkness. Andhā yathāndhair upanīyamānāḥ (SB 7.5.31). They are in darkness, and some leader comes, he is also in the darkness, and both of them fall into the ditch. This is going on. Do you agree to this point? Otherwise you cannot become good preacher. You must, yourself, must be convinced that actually this is the position. All these rascals, scientists, philosophers, politicians—they're all in darkness, and they're misguiding people. That's all. One of the first-class rascal in darkness is your Darwin. He's in favor of Darwin's theory. (laughs) Another first-class demon is that Freud. (laughter) These are the guides of the modern civilization. Anthropomorphism. No? Anthr . . . what is called?
Gargamuni: Anthropology?
Prabhupāda: Anthropology.
Jayapatākā: Now the latest demon is the one who says the population theory—overpopulation.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Jayapatākā: He is causing the trouble now.
Prabhupāda: Because everyone is ghostly-haunted and speaking all nonsense. Piśācī pāile yena mati-cchana haya, māyār grasta jīvera sei dāsa upajaya. One who is under the control of māyā, he speaks like ghostly-haunted man—all nonsense.
Jayapatākā: They're actually ghostly-haunted, or as if ghostly-haunted?
Prabhupāda: Ghostly-haunted. Māyā is acting as ghost.
Jayapatākā: Māyā.
Prabhupāda: They attack mostly their guardians—father, mother. These ghostly-haunted men becomes very inimical to the guardians and wants to kill them. Many cases. And abuses the father, mother, like anything. "Ah! You rascal! Why you have come? I shall kill you!" Like that. I have seen it. Mad, you call, or ghostly-haunted. Very dangerous.
Jayapatākā: What is the cure?
Prabhupāda: No cure. He must die. No cure. These hospitals are there, mental. They keep in the mental hospital. But ultimately there is no cure.