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Phalena pariciyate. The pariciya is to be understood by the result. The disciple is the result. If they are so fools, then what is the guru

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"Phalena paricīyate. The paricīya is to be understood by the result. The disciple is the result. If they are so fools, then what is the guru"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1977 Conversations and Morning Walks

Prabhupāda: This is going on. But disciples say that Aurobindo is more than. This is their knowledge.

Girirāja: That means he's failed as a guru. He hasn't . . .

Prabhupāda: He could not give them right knowledge. Phalena paricīyate. The paricīya is to be understood by the result. The disciple is the result. If they are so fools, then what is the guru?

Dr. Patel: That's the only . . . In our Vaiṣṇava paramparā, this Vallabhācārya, the whole lot is now being . . . (indistinct) . . . I have seen it.

Prabhupāda: Hmm? Śva-viḍ-varāhoṣṭra-kharaiḥ saṁstutaḥ puruṣaḥ paśuḥ.

Dr. Patel: Just like camel and ass. Ahorūpa mahad-guṇaiḥ(?). One man is preaching . . .

Prabhupāda: They . . . it is very difficult. Harāv abhaktasya kuto mahad-guṇāḥ (SB 5.18.12). They may speak all these big, big words, but they have no qualification. Only disqualification is that they do not accept God as Supreme and His instruction is . . .

Dr. Patel: They may be accepting God as Supreme, but of their own imagination.

Prabhupāda: That is their imagination. God is canvassing, "Yes, I am here." Mattaḥ parataraṁ nānyat (BG 7.7). "Why don't you think that I am the Supreme?" But these rascals will never believe it. And still they'll write Gītā-pravacana. Very dangerous. Gītā is spoken by God.

Dr. Patel: . . . (indistinct)

Prabhupāda: Huh? Some portion.

Dr. Patel: He had really . . . he was believing . . .

Prabhupāda: No, he wanted to prove himself that he is Puruṣottama.

Dr. Patel: No, he's not Puruṣottama. He does not say that. Puruṣottama is really reality in true sense, and is to be attained.

Prabhupāda: But his disciples say he is more than Kṛṣṇa.

Dr. Patel: Disciples . . . I mean, sannyāsa disciples . . .

Prabhupāda: That means why he has created such nonsense? If his disciples say something wrong, then that means he is also wrong. These people will never say that "Our Guru Mahārāja is more than Kṛṣṇa." They are not so nonsense. They will say, "My Guru Mahārāja is servant of Kṛṣṇa, and I am his servant."

Dr. Patel: He has said Puruṣottama is really the svarūpa. It cannot be a . . . anything which is infinite cannot be grasped by finite senses. That's what he said.

Prabhupāda: This is going on. But disciples say that Aurobindo is more than. This is their knowledge.

Girirāja: That means he's failed as a guru. He hasn't . . .

Prabhupāda: He could not give them right knowledge. Phalena paricīyate. The paricīya is to be understood by the result. The disciple is the result. If they are so fools, then what is the guru?

Dr. Patel: That's the only . . . In our Vaiṣṇava paramparā, this Vallabhācārya, the whole lot is now being . . . (indistinct) . . . I have seen it.

Prabhupāda: They are criticizing us.

Dr. Patel: I mean . . . (indistinct) . . . this thing is disturbed by us. This thing is the God has to reincarnate Himself again to reestablish the bhāgavata-dharma.

Prabhupāda: That is everywhere. If you don't mind that, your Swami Nārāyaṇa is also like that.

Dr. Patel: All of them. They are . . . (indistinct) . . . that is why, I mean, liberation is created by God again by the incarnation.

Prabhupāda: They create a cheap God. Real God they reject. That is going on.

Page Title:Phalena pariciyate. The pariciya is to be understood by the result. The disciple is the result. If they are so fools, then what is the guru
Compiler:Nabakumar
Created:2022-12-04, 09:36:10
Totals by Section:BG=0, SB=0, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=0, Con=1, Let=0
No. of Quotes:1