Harikesa: Now he has changed, because it was too unpopular.
Prabhupāda: It is business.
Bhāgavata: Rajneesh is also like that.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Bhāgavata: Rajneesh, same philosophy, that you . . .
Prabhupāda: Hmm. But they do not know. Na te viduḥ svārtha-gatiṁ hi viṣṇuṁ (SB 7.5.31). These rascals, they do not know what is the actual aim of life. They are, in the groups of ordinary men, they are doing some business, as somebody does business by opening sweetmeat shop. So they have opened this transcendental TM shop, that's all. Cheating. Cheating. So all of them are going on, cheating. Nobody knows the real interest is to go back to home, back to Godhead. Nobody knows. Ask any so-called sādhu, yogī, svāmī—they do not know . . . (indistinct) . . . they read Bhagavad-gītā, but they do not understand. Yad gatvā na nivartante tad dhāma paramaṁ mama (BG 15.6). So what do they understand, these . . . Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti (BG 4.9). They do not believe all these things, therefore they say. . . Swami Chinmayananda says that whatever is necessary we shall accept, other ślokas we shall reject. This is his . . . this rascal's philosophy. As if Kṛṣṇa has said something superfluous. They say like that. And the other day some gentleman came that, "It is fictitious writing." You were present?
Haṁsadūta: Hmm.
Prabhupāda: "Why not silent?" Kṛṣṇa is not silent. Kṛṣṇa is speaking. Why you should be silent when I challenge you like this? He said. He could not answer. This is going on. So many things they are doing; if they are challenged, they cannot answer. You were present? I told him, "Why silence? Kṛṣṇa is not silent. He says continually, bhagavān uvāca, page after page, and he's saying, 'Why he should be silent?' " He gave me the information that . . . (indistinct) . . . was silent, and anyone who would go to him, he would remain silent, and the message will be transferred.