Prabhupāda: Unless one is actually spiritually situated, this material center of happiness, maithunādi, that will go anywhere. You give any color, spiritual or religious or political. You see? Why Gandhi's āśrama failed? Do you know that?
Brahmānanda: No.
Prabhupāda: This is . . . when Gandhi was in jail, when he came back he saw all pregnant. You do not know that?
Kartikeya: No, we imagined, but we don't have information.
Prabhupāda: That what . . Gandhi said: "What is this āśrama?"
Indian man (1): No, but Gandhi . . . he is well known, very well known.
Prabhupāda: He is well known.
Indian man (1): Including Mahadev Desai and all, there were lot of complaints and counter complaints.
Prabhupāda: Yes. It cannot be. You cannot stop the sex unless you are fully in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. It is not possible. And that is the material bondage. In the material prison house they have got so many means—big, big walls, handcuff, chain—but nature is so perfect that simply give you a beautiful woman and you are all prisoner. Big wall, handcuff and chain—everything is complete. I think I have discussed in my recent purports.
Harikeśa: Oh, yes, yes.
Indian man (2): Even in case of Mahadev Desai, it was a classic incident, that his wife came one day to Gandhiji that, "This man is your personal writer, but he is going on with another woman in your camp."
Prabhupāda: There are so many.
Indian man (2): "And he comes only because of that woman. Otherwise he is not willing to be your personal writer. So I have complained." Then Gandhiji said, "All right, when did you know it?" So she said, "I was thinking for the three months, but fifteen days before I came." "All right, Mahadeva, you come here. You will fast for fifteen days." And one week later Mahadev Desai decides that he wanted food very badly. So after seven days he was about to die. Then that woman, wife, came again, "Mahārāja, I made a mistake. I made a complaint. All right. But now this man will die, and my Sowbhagya. (Fortune (her husband).) will go?" Then she said why have you made a complaint? So you can take over for seven days, but you fast for seven days." So he is relieved.
Prabhupāda: One—there are so many cases. This Lilavati Munshi, this is the same thing. You know that? There is a big history behind this.