Brian Singer: Sometimes my understanding of the Kṛṣṇa teachings in the book is to reach a stage or a state in your person where there is no disappointment or no very happy . . .
Prabhupāda: No. If you follow Kṛṣṇa's instruction, you'll always be happy. And if you create your own plans, then you'll be unhappy. This is the whole instruction. Sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja (BG 18.66): "You give up your own plans, nonsense plan. You take My plan. You'll be happy." This is the whole purpose of Bhagavad-gītā. You take Kṛṣṇa's plan and you'll be happy.
Brian Singer: And you avoid disappointment.
Prabhupāda: Yes. There will be no disappointment. And as, if you make your own plan, it will be baffled and you'll be disappointed. That is going on.
Brian Singer: But sometimes I have, in the past, I have noticed from very bad disappointment that I have learnt very much.
Prabhupāda: Well, you were lucky. You are sometimes not disappointment. But generally you are disappointment. So we are teaching that "You take Kṛṣṇa's plan, you'll be happy. Don't make your own plan. You'll never be happy." This is Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
Brian Singer: Is Kṛṣṇa cons . . . the Kṛṣṇa movement, is it still growing?
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Devotee (2): Is the Kṛṣṇa movement still growing?
Prabhupāda: What do you think?
Brian Singer: In numbers, yeah. I think yes, but I don't know.
Prabhupāda: Yes. It must grow. If it is good, there must be customer. And if it is bad—it is cheating—there may be some customer for some time, then it will be finished. That is the test of reality and false thing. You can cheat persons with false things for some time, but if your commodity is right, the customer will increase. That's a fact. The more the people will appreciate, "Oh, here is nice commodity. Purchase it . . ."