Devotee (2): These old men, Śrīla Prabhupāda, they're trying but they cannot enjoy very much any more.
Prabhupāda: Unless they enjoy with Kṛṣṇa, it is impossible.
Devotee (2): But they are not finding it so pleasurable as young men?
Prabhupāda: And how we are finding pleasure in chanting and dancing? It is a practice.
Devotee (2): No, I mean sex life.
Prabhupāda: Sex life we are not stopping. But sex life allowed only to the gṛhasthas, householder, restricted. Not illicit sex. We are not stopping sex life. Sex life is required. But under rules. And if you enjoy illicit sex, then the whole society is spoiled. You make the innocent girls spoiled. And they have no other business than prostitution. That means you put the society into chaotic condition. The young girls, they become cheap, you enjoy, then you become irresponsible. You have no family encumbrances, and you do not know how to maintain the family. That is the position. Why this welfare? Because the young boys enjoy the young girls and they get children, the government has to support.
Paramahaṁsa: That's the cause of this whole problem.
Prabhupāda: Yes, the welfare department is for that purpose only.