Dr. Arnold Toynbee: My opinion is that an individual human being is, in life in this world, is temporarily separated from the whole of spiritual reality, and after death we rejoin the reality that we are separated from.
Prabhupāda: That is Christian idea.
Dr. Arnold Toynbee: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Yes. After death . . . but so far I know, Christian, there is consideration of hell and heaven.
Dr. Arnold Toynbee: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Somebody is going to hell, somebody's going to heaven. Is it not? After death?
Devotee: Yes, I think so.
Śyāmasundara: That was my understanding.
Devotee: That is the Christian idea.
Prabhupāda: So, if there is question of hell and heaven, then we are responsible in this life for our next life, whether we are going to hell or heaven.
Dr. Arnold Toynbee: Yes, yes. I would agree. Yes.
Prabhupāda: So that is nice. There is next life. And according to your work, you get hellish life or heavenly life.
Dr. Arnold Toynbee: And you would believe that karma is continuous from . . .
Prabhupāda: karma, yes.
Dr. Arnold Toynbee: . . . one life to another.
Prabhupāda: Yes, transferred. Yes.
Dr. Arnold Toynbee: Yes.
Prabhupāda: That is practical. If you become nice student . . .
Dr. Arnold Toynbee: karma can be . . .
Prabhupāda: . . . then, in future, you become a nice professor. But if you do not study nicely, how you can become a professor?
Dr. Arnold Toynbee: Yes.
Prabhupāda: So karma you cannot deny.