Prabhupāda: If anyone depends on the master's mercy, he's a śūdra. Here in Delhi, New Delhi, these big, big buildings, big, big officers, as soon as the government will fail, they will be street dogs, that's all. Now they are plundering, by official instrument. Now when the government will be finished, they will be street dog. That's all. This is their civilization. Immediately, if all of a sudden there is attack in New Delhi, all the people will starve. There is no food at home, and they'll die.
Harikeśa: That's a really important point, that the government takes more and more, and everybody gets poorer and poorer.
Prabhupāda: Yes. The government is also poor because they do not know how to govern. Buddhi yasya balaṁ tasya. If one has got intelligence he has got strength.
Harikeśa: Change of government means getting poorer.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Harikeśa: A change of government . . .
Prabhupāda: Change of government . . . just like they say, a change of theories by the rascals. That's all. Change means rascal.
Harikeśa: But as soon as a government changes . . .
Prabhupāda: Anything change means it is the domain of rascals, pandemonium. Just like in Manu-saṁhitā it is said that nāsyāṁ svatantratām arhati, women should not be given independence. Once said, that is fact. If you want to change, you suffer. That's all.