Expressions researched:
"I also want that"
|"I always want that"
|"I always wanted that"
|"I especially want that"
|"I had wanted that"
|"I just want that"
|"I only want that"
|"I simply want that"
|"I therefore wanted that"
|"I want that"
|"I wanted that"
|"We sincerely want that"
|"that I want"
|"we simply want that"
|"we want that"
|"we want, that"
|"we wanted that"
Satsvarūpa: You were supposed to give a lecture today, but because you gave a lecture last night in Buffalo, we cancelled it and I went instead.
Prabhupāda: So you lectured there? That's nice. Now you have to lecture. I will have to retire. (chuckles) I want that all my students now should be prepared. Puruṣottama, you sit down. You are standing. You come here. Sit down. When, at present, when we speak of past, present, future, we refer to this particular creation of my body. Is it not?
Prabhupāda: Just like you are a respectable professor, teacher. We don't say that you change your position. We have come to convince you about our philosophy. That's all. So just like the same example: Arjuna, he was denying to fight, "Kṛṣṇa, I do not like to kill my relatives. I don't want this kingdom." But he was taught Bhagavad-gītā. And at the end, when Kṛṣṇa inquired, "What is your decision now?" he said, kariṣye vacanaṁ tava (BG 18.73): "Yes, I shall act accordingly, as You say." That means his consciousness was changed. He remained a fighter. He was a fighter, he remained a fighter, but he changed his consciousness. We want that. We don't want to disturb the present condition of the society. No. But we try to make them understand that "There is a great necessity of you to understand this consciousness, Kṛṣṇa consciousness." That is our goal.
Prabhupāda: Oh, there is no bulb.
Devotee (1): No bulb. Oh.
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes, you can set it here. I wanted that box covered, then I would have kept here.
Dr. Singh: Well, I mean that with Kṛṣṇa first (indistinct), so what is the first priority?
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Dr. Singh: First priority is to try...(break)...function.
Prabhupāda: What do you mean by this first priority? That I want to know from you.
Dr. Singh: No, you were talking, Swamiji, about the unification of the world.
Prabhupāda: Yes. The world is going on. We simply say that you take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness and you will be happy.
Author: No. But, sir, I see... I don't... I think it would be very difficult to explain the meaning of having a bald head, and by saying somebody's got a bald head, the reason for this is, there seems to be some cleanliness and so on, and to explain why people wear clothes like this. It's impossible surely to explain the reasons for these things without describing them in the first place.
Prabhupāda: Explain... Any group of men, they have got a particular type of dress, the military dress, the police dress. So people can understand that "Here is a police." Similarly, by this dress they will chant, "Hare Kṛṣṇa!" immediately. That is our experience. As soon as they will see these people, "Hare Kṛṣṇa," and if they will criticize our, anything, we want that people see us and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. That we want. Simply by seeing us they will remember Hare Kṛṣṇa. That is great advancement. Indirectly that is our propaganda, chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Devotee: That leased property.
Prabhupāda: Leased property. So I am not concerned. (indistinct) I want that you should live very peacefully and concentrate your mind for (indistinct). And we are not disturbed with these arrangements. Kīrtanānanda Mahārāja will be (indistinct), then that problem is solved. Now you make divided zones and work (indistinct). I want to (indistinct). That's all right.
Paramahaṁsa: So, actually this entire world is spiritual.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That we want, that engage everything in Kṛṣṇa's service. This will be spiritual world.
Mr. Wadell: But what we are talking about is something which doesn't change from today or tomorrow or yesterday. So when these things have been done, perhaps next week, I will come down.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes, you are welcome. I want that responsible persons like you should try to understand the scientific value of this movement. It is not a sentimental movement. It is based on philosophy, science, authority.
Prabhupāda: ...you should call learned. Arcye viṣṇau śilā-dhīr guruṣu nara-matir vaiṣṇave jāti-buddhiḥ. You take it...
Nitāi: Yes.
Prabhupāda: ...this quotation from Padma Purāṇa, and distribute it by transcribing to all our devotees.
Nitāi: That's the verse that says that one is a resident of hell...
Prabhupāda: Yes. Nārakī.
Nitāi: ...if he considers the Deity...
Prabhupāda: Nārakī.
Nitāi: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Arcye viṣṇau... (break) ...when it will teach military art, with tilaka, soldiers will, "Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa..." (laughter) We want that. Marching with military band, "Hare Kṛṣṇa." You maintain this idea. Is it not good?
Hṛdayānanda: Yes, Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: When there will be military march of Kṛṣṇa conscious soldiers. Anyone who does not believe in Kṛṣṇa, "Blam!" (laughter) Yes. The same process as the Mohammedans did, with sword and Koran, we'll have to do that. "Do you believe in Kṛṣṇa or not?" "No, sir." "Blam!" Finished. (laughter, Prabhupāda laughs) What do you think, Madhudviṣa Mahārāja? Is that all right?
Madhudviṣa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: (laughing) What these communists can do? We can do better than them. We can kill many communists like that. (laughter) Then it will be counteraction of communist movement. And you think like that. "Why you are sitting idly, no employment? Come on to the field! Take this plow! Take this bull. Go on working. Why you are sitting idly?" This is Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. Nobody should be allowed to sit down and sleep. They must find out some employment, either work as brāhmaṇa or as a kṣatriya or as a vaiśya. Why there should be unemployment?
Robert Gouiran: Uh, it's a little difficult to explain, but I made a series of personal experiences which convinced me of the existence of the occult plane. So I could get some contact with what I call the occult plane or whatever you call it. That means that the way how we could get the transparency and then to go where we have to go.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that's nice, beginning of spiritual understanding.
Robert Gouiran: So I left them to let things go and to go with the...
Prabhupāda: No, I mean to say that you went there for some spiritual enlightenment. Is it not?
Robert Gouiran: Spiritual achievement?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guru-gaurāṅga: Enlightenment.
Robert Gouiran: Enlightenment. Of course. And I got the first...
Yogeśvara: Taste.
Robert Gouiran: The first small light of this enlightenment.
Prabhupāda: That I am asking you. What is that light?
Robert Gouiran: It's not complete yet. It's not complete yet.
Prabhupāda: No. Whatever you have received, that I want to know. Then I can understand where you stand on the spiritual platform.
Priest: No, you don't..., you see...
Prabhupāda: Then it is a bit difficult.
Priest: I have always told that the duty of the swami is to listen and to understand, and you don't seem to listen and to understand. You misunderstand.
Prabhupāda: No, no, I use... First of all let us... Why misunderstand? You say that you have no experience of God.
Priest: No, I never said that.
Prabhupāda: Then tell me your experience. That I want to know.
Priest: That every time I had an experience of God, and first I went through the bhakta, and I was a bhakta for a long, long time, then I found out that God was beyond my experience.
Prabhupāda: That means you have no experience. How can I talk with you?
Prabhupāda: The communists, they, they are staunch enemy of the capitalist. Their whole philosophy is against God and against capitalism. So if America becomes Kṛṣṇa conscious and fights, they have got strength plus God's blessing. They'll come out victorious. Fight is going on. We cannot stop. But if the American people take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness and fight with the communist, they'll come out victorious. Then the menace of communistic movement will stop. And we want that. We want that these demonic communists should be finished. The Russians, as people, they are not communists. They are not communists. A certain class. Just like in India, a certain class is communist. The mass of people is not communist. They cannot become communist. It is not possible.
Prabhupāda: No, it is a fact. This factory working is most demonic. It is not required at all. For the interest of a few persons this device has been invented. Therefore the Communist movement is there. And the China has found the Communistic movement in Russia is defective because although it is Communistic, the whole idea of exploitation by the powerful is there.
Siddha-svarūpa: Yes, that is their argument actually.
Prabhupāda: Yes. And that is the fact. And Chinese Communism will be perfect if they take little instruction from us. We are also Communist, Kṛṣṇa Communist. We want that everyone should be happy. The Communistic philosophy is also like that. They want to see everyone happy. But they have made a materialistic center. That will not help. People are attracted to these bad habits of materialistic civilization. The most important is that sex and intoxication and meat-eating and gambling. So their attraction has to be changed.
Prabhupāda: No, I have finished. I mean to edit, editing?
Rāmeśvara: Editing, we are done five volumes in Madhya-līlā and two volumes in Antya-līlā. But they are being held up in the Sanskrit division.
Prabhupāda: So you get it corrected. I am present. I will do that.
Rāmeśvara: I think when Nitāi and Jagannātha come, Śrīla Prabhupāda, all the books will come out within a few months, all of them.
Prabhupāda: No, no, not a few months. I want these seventeen pending books must be printed within two months. That I want. Otherwise disqualification. Yes. (break) ...be done. Your so many GBC's are here, and you are also here, I am also here. Decide! It must be done. It is too much delay.
Prabhupāda: Some way or other, if they read my books, they will be benefited. There is no doubt about it.
Bahulāśva: Yes. Then they can get a degree recognized by the state of California so they can teach in universities all over the whole country.
Prabhupāda: That I want. Do it. We want to give degrees, at least B.A., M.A., and Ph.D., according to the advancement of knowledge. And that will be very much beneficial to your country. Then America will be saved from disaster and it will be the leader. The country will be leader of the whole world. Take this advantage.
Prabhupāda: So I think I shall not be able to attend that class because I take my bath at half past eleven.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: That's okay, Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: I will go. These people will remain.
Prof. Olivier: Have you transport?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Oh, yes. We'd like to show you some of the books and also... (break)
Prof. Olivier: ...searching for truth. If it is not doing that it is no longer science.
Prabhupāda: No longer science.
Prof. Olivier: I think this is your point. We have neglected the science of the spirit.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Prof. Olivier: And this is what we have to rediscover and work at.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That I want. Without science, simply sentiment will not help you.
Prof. Olivier: That's right. Sentimentality...
Prabhupāda: "I believe; you believe..." You may believe something, I may believe something, but everything should be on the scientific basis. That is wanted. So unless we understand this point, that "I am not this body; I am something else than the body," there is no question of spiritual education.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: People may argue though that without education we can't even read the knowledge that Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura is speaking. How to read Bengali or Sanskrit or English or anything like this?
Prabhupāda: That is real education. We want that you learn from Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura, you learn from Vyāsadeva, you learn from Nārada. But why you are learning from Freud, from Darwin and such rascals?
Prabhupāda: Give that example. That I wanted.
Devotee (2): We have so many examples of scientific creations by intelligent brain, personalities on this planet, so many things which we can see, like the clothes we wear and the machines we are using in our everyday lives which require...
Prabhupāda: So how Kṛṣṇa has prepared earth? That I want.
Devotee (2): So we can see by studying the nature of the construction of this earth that it is much more intelligent...
Prabhupāda: So how earth is coming from Kṛṣṇa? Tell me that.
Prabhupāda: On the other side you have got some land?
Jayapatāka: Yes. We plan to put irrigation there. I have two diesel five-horsepower, seven-horsepower engine. One I put over there and they are irrigating. We have fourteen bīghās of wheat, very good wheat. And here in the back we've also purchased here another set and we're irrigating that, this unirrigated land, and it only gets some chick pea and things, very bad crop, minimum crop. So now we've got the irrigation, we're getting many more crops. (break)
Prabhupāda: That I want, that it must be properly utilized. Otherwise you purchase and there is no utility.
Prabhupāda: So that should be adjusted, because we have to work. If we make differences amongst ourselves, then how work will...
Guru-kṛpā: I think, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that the difference is that we are willing to spread Kṛṣṇa consciousness according to your instructions, but...
Prabhupāda: That should... That is the...
Guru-kṛpā: But Siddha, they have their own way they think they can influence people to take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, which is more or less not fully presenting Kṛṣṇa consciousness in a way of complete surrender. In other words, they are keeping hairs and are not full-time devotees, such as we are, to spread it all over the world.
Siddha-svarūpa: You mean they're not surrendered to you personally, Guru-kṛpā. It means they're not working with you personally. Unless somebody accepts you or this person or that person...
Guru-kṛpā: I'm not... No one accepts me.
Siddha-svarūpa: ...then you get upset.
Prabhupāda: No, I don't wish to agitate your mind. I want that if there is any difference, that should be adjusted, and we must preach combinedly. That is my point.
Prabhupāda: What is his name?
Jayapatākā: Śacīnandana.
Prabhupāda: Oh. Oh, Śacīnandana. So he.... I have seen several times. He's like bābājī, but what he is?
Jayapatākā: He's a clerk.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Jayapatākā: He's a clerk.
Prabhupāda: Clerk. And he's the chief man.
Jayapatākā: He's a secretary. They have lawyer also, but he is the treasurer or something. I've only met with Śacīnandana. (break) He does some preaching. He goes to Bangladesh and does kīrtana on village to village sometimes. (break) ...if they give us the place or lease...
Prabhupāda: What is the use of talking?
Jayapatākā: What is the use of talking with Lalitā Prasāda?
Prabhupāda: Eh? No. That was the.... Last talk was like that. I wanted that "You have to consider that whatever portion you can spare, give us on lease. We develop." That's all. Ninety-nine-year lease.
Jayapatākā: I don't think he clearly understood. (break) Hm?
Pañca-draviḍa: In what way would we develop it?
Prabhupāda: Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura's birthplace? Make some nice building with some devotees, one to take care. That's all. Means making interested the local inhabitants.
Prabhupāda: Every politician is reading Bhagavad-gītā, but go-rakṣya... Instead of go-rakṣya, go-hatya. This is going on, no go-rakṣya but go-hatya. This is going on. Who cares for Kṛṣṇa? This is the misfortune of India. Kṛṣṇa spoke in India, in Kurukṣetra. Kṛṣṇa appeared in India, but Indian people are neglecting. Therefore I say it is a misfortune. It is your own thing. You are neglecting it.
Reporter (2): So you want to encourage that.
Prabhupāda: Yes. I want that.... Bhagavad-gītā was spoken in India. Every Indian should take Bhagavad-gītā very seriously. Then India's fortune will change. But they have rejected Bhagavad-gītā, and they are making their own imagination as the goal of life. So how they will be happy?
Prabhupāda: So there is agitation against chanting. That is also good. Yes, "Hare Kṛṣṇa is bad." (laughs)
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: They don't want to be bothered with Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: They don't want to be bothered with Hare Kṛṣṇa. Go on with their hellish life.
Prabhupāda: So we want that. Let them chant Hare Kṛṣṇa somehow or other. (devotees laugh) "We don't want to be bothered by Hare Kṛṣṇa." That means chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: That I want.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: That we should work together.
Prabhupāda: Yes. What is this (indistinct)?
Hari-śauri: There's no problem with... (break) ...as far as distributing Kṛṣṇa consciousness like that, but the thing is they simply don't want to cooperate with the ISKCON movement.
Prabhupāda: But why?
Hari-śauri: That no one knows. They simply just don't want to mix.
Prabhupāda: That we can settle up by sitting together. Why there should be difference?
Bhūrijana: Śrīla Prabhupāda, but I think the thing I understand least, is that if they are not doing what you want... I mean... I'm sitting before you now and you're telling me and I'm listening, and you are my spiritual master. I must accept.
Prabhupāda: We want that book selling must be increased as much as possible. This we want. The same thing. Let the child take medicine. Never mind the father is speaking lies.
Reporter: It would be a matter of faith, I suppose.
Prabhupāda: Faith may be different. You may have faith, I may not have faith. That is not the question. Just like in the bank you deposit some money. If some may have faith or no faith, but that bank is trustworthy. You know that your money deposited in the bank will not be cheated. Similarly if you trust in God, you must know whether God is trustworthy. Whether.... What do you mean by God? This is not the question of faith. Faith is bad. It is a question of understanding. So that we want, that America-specially you are favorite amongst all other nations; you are well-to-do, richer than other nations—so why don't you take God seriously? Why should you trust in God as faith? No, you understand what is God and have your faith at full, that "God is, yes, trustworthy," so that others may also know that God is trustworthy. That is our mission, that why God entrust? Are we trusting God?
Prabhupāda: Show them imperfect. That will be... (break) Actually they're imperfect. Just like they say five thousand years, a ludicrous. They, and the scientists say that the stratum of earth, what is called?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Strata, layers.
Prabhupāda: Layers. And I was telling my colleague that stratus, the layers so perfect that everywhere, say five inches, just like it appears somebody has laid down. Is it not?
Rūpānuga: Yes. Layer upon layer.
Prabhupāda: Yes, one after another, the same height, same color, the same ingredient—how it comes to happen? And they give history of millions of years? And these people say five thousand.
Sadāpūta: We were wondering about those strata. We were wondering if maybe those could be masses of sediment deposited...
Prabhupāda: Whatever it may be, the side height of the strata is the same for miles together. As if somebody very intelligently laid down.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: So how do we explain that?
Prabhupāda: That I want. (laughter) How they can say five thousand years? Things are going on for millions and millions of years.
Sadāpūta: The geologists say that in different strata, they give names for the strata, and in one strata they say that there is one type of animal remains to be found, and another strata they say you find the remains of a different kind of animal. So they say this shows evolution.
Prabhupāda: Anyway, it takes millions of years. So how they say five thousand years?
Sadāpūta: Well, no one really believes the Christians.
Rūpānuga: They are laughed at actually. The scientists, how far do they say? Five hundred million?
Sadāpūta: The scientists say it goes back six hundred million years.
Prabhupāda: That is also imperfect. If we study Brahmā's day, it will be all... Brahmā's day is, one day equal to forty-three hundred thousands of years multiplied by thousand, that is Brahmā's one day. So thirty days, one month, and twelve months equal to year, such hundred years. Your mathematics will fail to figure out. Is it not? (laughter)
Prabhupāda: Yes, little better. Hare Kṛṣṇa. (break) ...thinking of how to utilize the whole land. The situation is very good, good prospect. I want that self-independent here, as far as possible. But you have got enough materials. With woods you can make cottages. Then land becomes clear, then utilize it.
Bhagavān: Cows.
Prabhupāda: Cows, so many things. Free from all anxieties, chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. Life is meant for simply chanting. This should be the motto. But because we have got this body, we have to maintain it. That much. Otherwise, we have no ambition to become a very big man in this material world, enjoy it. This is all false, useless. He'll become a big man, and one day death comes and kicks him out. So these are all false attempts. It has no meaning. The meaningful life is, so long we live, become fully Kṛṣṇa conscious.
Prabhupāda: Jaya. Take prasāda and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, that's all. And we have now nice buildings. Live there peacefully, chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. Bas. This is my success. If I see that you are living very nicely, chanting very nicely, then all my labor is successful.
Hari-śauri: Hare Kṛṣṇa. So if all the devotees would like to leave now, then Prabhupāda can rest a little bit from traveling.
Harikeśa: You can distribute prasāda in the hall.
Prabhupāda: Oh, you are older than me.
Older man: Your blessings.
Prabhupāda: Live peacefully, chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. It is for you, so many buildings. Let devotees come, live here peacefully, and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, that's all. That I want.
Prabhupāda: Soon the whole, our program is going on.
Gargamuni: Oh, yes. No, it's going on more. The book distribution is going on more. More people are joining. There's no hindrance.
Prabhupāda: That I want.
Jayapatākā: These are simply minor obstacles.
Hari-śauri: Śrīla Prabhupāda? Pālikā was just wondering if you wanted anything tonight.
Prabhupāda: Yes. If she can... She can make little vegetable, potato, tomato.
Gargamuni: Prabhupāda's house. Your house. You have not decided where you want to put your house.
Prabhupāda: I wanted that if the major project is done, then we can select. What do you think?
Jayapatākā: Let the big land be acquired and pick the best place. Let the whole land be acquired and then pick the best place. You wanted to wait for the whole land to be acquired, and then pick the best place.
Prabhupāda: Yes. And not I want, but that you all see, that is the best place.
Jayapatākā: For the most privacy.
Prabhupāda: For the time being, that place is very nice, that pond. What is there?
Jayapatākā: Devotees have brought from the farm.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Maybe she should come here to cook for you.
Prabhupāda: Oh, maybe. No, they are very happy. All the boys and girls are very happy. Sit down. So that I want, that I live happily and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. That's all. We don't want unnecessary luxury. Anartha. Anartha-nivṛttiḥ syāt. Anartha should be reduced, nil, bare necessities. Anartha... Just like this material thing we require for preaching. That is not anartha. But when it is used for sense gratification, that is anartha. Anything for sense gratification, that is unwanted, anartha. And anything for Kṛṣṇa consciousness, that is spiritual.
Gargamuni: I don't know. After I went to San Francisco... They should be preserved. That was beginning. We could still use them.
Prabhupāda: Yes. I paid $150 I had collected. They wanted hundred dollars each or $125 each. So I went there, that I want two machines, but I have got $150 dollars only. So he wanted to throw away the machine. "All right, you take two machines." So I gave $150 and took away two machines. I think it is more costly. Eh?
Gargamuni: Yes, oh, yes. Those are heavy-duty machines. They were old, but they were good.
Prabhupāda: They were working nice. And the printer was that boy?
Gargamuni: Ranchor.
Prabhupāda: Ranchor. Spoiling so much paper.
Gargamuni: Yes, so much.
Prabhupāda: He brought $500 from his grandfather.
Gargamuni: Yes, he donated.
Prabhupāda: His father and mother divorced. So he used to visit sometimes his grandfather, father's father. So naturally grandfather, when he used to visit, he gave him some money.
Prabhupāda: So what is that difficulty? What is your difficulty? That I must know.
Devotee (2): If some of the boys were to get along with the authorities...
Prabhupāda: Loan?
Hari-śauri: Along.
Prabhupāda: Oh, along, authori... So that I want... (break) ...discuss with authorities here. Our first authority is Akṣayānanda. So what is the difficulty you get along with? What is the difficulty? You must discuss. Otherwise how it can be resolved?
Jagadīśa: I have a question, whether we should always give them khicuṛi or whether we should...
Prabhupāda: Give them nice prasādam by which they are attracted. It doesn't matter khicuṛi, puri, kacuri, lāḍu. Whatever they are attracted, we must give. Whatever that will attract them. That I want. Kṛṣṇa-prasādam. Don't waste, give them nice palatable foodstuff. Give them one finest kacuri, one nice samosā, two puris, they will be very glad. Make very, very, nice prasādam. What is this rubbish, the dog cannot eat even? They have done a great mistake, all rascals. I am very angry. I say that if you have got no money, I'll spend, I will give you money. Why should you make such tenth class, and no food at all. It is to be thrown away. Simply waste of grains and energy. Engage nice professional cook, prepare nice foodstuff. I shall spend for that if you have no money. Gentlemen who are coming immediately should be offered some prasādam. "Please come here, take: puri, kacuri, samosā." Arrangement should be like that. The doctors came, he comes out of love, but there is no prasādam. Huh? What is this? The doctor comes, but we couldn't supply him prasādam at 12 o'clock.
Prabhupāda: Similarly, you have seen our Navadvīpa also?
Indian lady: Māyāpura dekhi.
Prabhupāda: Māyāpura, yes. So we are giving, as far as possible, comfortable life. Because modern man, he cannot go to the forest and live underneath a tree. That is not possible. Therefore by begging, begging, spending blood, we are getting money all over the world and spend it like this. For me, I can live anywhere. And I can collect one or two ruṭi anywhere. It is not for me. It is for you. I have invited. Come here, stay and preach this cult, Hare Kṛṣṇa movement. That I want. People are being cheated all over the world shamelessly.
Prabhupāda: So your wife came... (break) This is Indian attitude. They do not care for the modern, civilized way of life, wasting time reading some nonsense book or going to the bars, the cinema, talking unnecessarily. They do not like. Those who are old style, they do not.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: No, I know many women who are very good cooks, I have tasted...
Prabhupāda: They have no time to waste time in that way. They must be inclined that "I must prepare something nice so that my husband, my children or my, all friends will be very pleased." That is their policy. I wanted that all our girls, they should be expert. And in America they are doing that. They should learn the art of cooking and prepare very nice foodstuffs, daily change of menu. And the children should be so trained up that no more birth. And that is life. They can produce hundreds of children, it doesn't matter, but must be responsible that "The children should be saved. This is the last birth, no more birth. I'll train the child in such a way that next life he's going to Kṛṣṇa, back to home, back to Godhead." That is parent's duty. Otherwise they should not become parent. That is contraceptive: "I am not fit to train my children in that way, so I shall not produce cats and dogs." This is life. Why shall I produce cats and dogs? And Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura was gṛhastha, he produced Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī. That is one... So in this way, if there is ideal institution, ideal mode of living, it is happy; everything is all right. That is gṛhastha. Produce Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī. My Guru Mahārāja used to say that "If I can produce kṛṣṇa-bhakta as children, then I'm prepared to marry and produce hundreds of children." And if we cannot, then we shall not produce even one children.
Prabhupāda: These nonsense ideas, why you make without asking? I am paying money. Why it should be cut down? Don't do anything nonsensical. This should be increased. I shall pay. Why you are anxious? So?
Mahāṁsa: Now when I get back I'm going to work on it and see that at least...
Prabhupāda: They should come. Every evening they should come, as many as possible. Give them prasādam. Our mission is to induce them to chant and take prasādam. Then, next stage, if they want to work with us, it is welcome. If not, we shall go on giving prasādam and induce them to chant. This is our mission.
Mahāṁsa: The village people are very happy.
Prabhupāda: Yes, they should be. That I want. Sarve sukhino bhavantu. This is our mission.
Mahāṁsa: The stone-cutting has also started.
Prabhupāda: Ah, that's nice.
Mahāṁsa: They're doing very well.
Prabhupāda: Here we're inviting everyone, "Come here. Live here. Take prasādam and chant. Don't drink tea. That's all." (chuckles) That is... Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Mass of people, let them chant and dance and take prasāda. So these centers are being opened for mass movement as well as class movement. In the village there is... Hardly you'll get good, educated men. So there is no question of philosophy. Given them chance of chanting and take prasāda. It is useless to talk before them our philosophy. They'll never understand. But they will understand prasādam. Prasādam is so nice. If there are few grains of prasāda, even the crows will come, the condemned bird. (laughs) He will also come. You do like this. So if this has been settled, do that.
Haṁsadūta: I think Mahāṁsa would rather manage the farm himself.
Prabhupāda: Then... You think... I do not know, but manage somehow or other. I want that prasāda distribution must go on. People should come in numbers, increase. Whatever you can produce, spend for that purpose. We are not going to produce foodstuff for our starving... It is for them. When they'll understand, they'll work voluntarily: "Yes, it's for us." We are not capitalists.
Prabhupāda: It is a superstition that one should not lie down keeping the head on the northern side. So one says that "I have no head at all. So why shall I bother about keeping my head this way or that way?" Similarly, keep no head, so there will be no question of keeping northern side or southern side. That I want. We have no such program. You spend all money. I want that whatever collection is there, you spend. There is no account, and there will be no question of income tax. We are beggars. Whatever money you get, you spend. That's all.
Prabhupāda: Kīrtana can be performed. So the movie, how long it is?
Bhavabhūtī: It's a one and a half hour movie, and we're in about eight minutes of it.
Prabhupāda: That's nice. Eight minutes. Showing our books? That I want. Let them read our books. Then they'll understand what we are.
Rāmeśvara: All the devotees will appreciate this then. That the records now, the money is going to be used for food relief.
Prabhupāda: Yes. And we can increase. The same thing (indistinct) in the farm, in the village, "Come on, any number, I shall feed you. Come here, chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, and take prasādam." And we shall increase the quality of the prasādam. They will be very much pleased to come and chant. That I want. I am interested in these rascals (indistinct). Fighting amongst them. What can we do? You can go for some time, see what is the reason you have come.
Gargamuni: In India there are 500,000 villages. So we need so many men for going.
Prabhupāda: Yes. And we want that all these village people may come daily and hear and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: And New York temple is going nice?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I think very nicely, yes.
Prabhupāda: People are coming regular?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh yes. We get on Sundays not less than six or seven hundred people come every Sunday. And...
Prabhupāda: Indians and Americans.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. About, say, half and half.
Prabhupāda: That's good.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Good turn out.
Prabhupāda: That's good. Similarly Los Angeles, and other...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: So by this counter-propaganda we have not lost anything.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No. People were not so much aware of what our movement stood for. Now, with this propaganda, we're getting an opportunity to explain to them what our movement means.
Prabhupāda: I wanted that all our books should be given to the court: "This is our statement." Let him read. He can...
Brahmānanda: We received that tape where you tell the story of Mr. Ghosh bringing all the books just to...
Hari-śauri: "Just to teach you law."
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Hari-śauri: "Just to teach you law."
Prabhupāda: (laughs) Yes. There was big lawyer. In those days he was earning not less than thirty-thousand per month. Rajbery Ghosh, Doctor. He was Doctor. So in one case he brought so many books in the court, the judge remarked, "Well, Dr. Ghosh, You have brought the whole library?" "Yes, my lord, just to teach you law." (laughs) No, any statement we give, it has to be considered. They cannot neglect. So you can simply put these books, eighty-four books: "This is our statement. You read them. Then give your judgement." How do you think? Did you consult any lawyer?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We have a man who is very much eager to fight this case.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is wanted.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And he's a first-class fighter.
Prabhupāda: And give him hint. This is wanted.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This man is not simply a businessman because in his...
Prabhupāda: We want that.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He was taking up on his own so many civil rights cases. He's a fighter for individual freedom.
Prabhupāda: Not only that. He should be convinced that "Here is a good mission for the human society."
Brahmānanda: This is a group of scholars and intelligent people who want to help Hare Kṛṣṇa, in other words, friends of Hare Kṛṣṇa. So actually it was some of our devotees, they suggested that the name of this group should not say Hare Kṛṣṇa. It should say, "Friends of God conscious people," or something like that, because they thought the word Hare Kṛṣṇa makes some negative...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Reaction.
Prabhupāda: But Hare Kṛṣṇa is religion.
Brahmānanda: So one of the big scholars, he said that "I will not join any organization if Kṛṣṇa's name is not there..."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: "Because I want to fight..."
Brahmānanda: "I want to fight for Hare Kṛṣṇa."
Prabhupāda: That is wanted. (laughs) That is wanted. We want that.
Prabhupāda: That book was named Cloister and Hearth. So get Bombay finished very quickly and book-printing, stock, propaganda. (break)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ...society is growing on that principle.
Prabhupāda: Yes. This I want to increase more and more. No money in the bank. In the books. And as soon as there will be stock of book, it has to be sold. Otherwise you will starve. (chuckling) That I want.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That will force the book sales to increase. The manager...
Prabhupāda: You may take it as business or whatever you like. I am not taking anything. You are selling five to six lakhs daily?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: So my royalty would have been one lakh, fifty thousand daily. Big authors, they take twenty-five percent. So that is not the ambition, but my ambition is these books shall be sold. That's all. Whole... Every house should have our books, every gentleman, in any language. It doesn't matter. That is our propaganda. Now you are getting all languages, so we can capture the whole world.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I think the government knows what you are doing.
Prabhupāda: They know. They appreciate. The Home Member has appreciated. He personally told Gopāla Kṛṣṇa, "Yes, we want that this movement should spread all over the world." Not in writing, but verbally he has stated, although he's Christian. Every sane man will appreciate. Indira Gandhi also. You said that she has advised.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Unless she appreciates, why she has done? And the ambassador.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. He has given his certification. At first he was unwilling, but he became... When he got permission from India, then...
Prabhupāda: Indian government should be proud that Indian culture is being accepted in America.
Prabhupāda: Why they are against the book?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Because... They're not against the books. They're against the money, the huge money that they see the books are getting. They're not even against the books. They're against the process of collecting money. Books, they don't care one way or the other, but the fact that we're collecting so much money, that is surprising them.
Hari-śauri: They think we're just going on the street begging money and then living nice life.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: See at first... At first they don't take us very seriously. They think, "Well, a few beggars." But then they start to see one skyscraper...
Prabhupāda: All beggars. (laughs)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, poor beggars, right. And then a skyscraper full of beggars, and then they realize, "How they purchased a skyscraper? These people are collecting a lot of money."
Prabhupāda: We want that they should have necessaries without any difficulty and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. That they do not like. They want people to be industrialists, working very hard in the factory.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Perfect rascal.
Prabhupāda: Perfect. They do not know. Ahaṅkāra-vimūḍhātmā kartāham iti manyate (BG 3.27). So at least in India these things should be stopped. That is my ambition. India cannot go in that way. We have got so much stock of knowledge. Bhārata-bhūmite haila. That I want. Others rascals may be misled, but in India at least there must be an ideal class. That I want. Why India's name should be defamed? That... They are following in the same blind man's way. Therefore I repeatedly said that "I invite you all. Come. Join. Understand." What is this nonsense? "Health. What will be health?" But where is your health, nonsense? You are going to die next moment. And "WHO"? What is that "WHO"?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Diamond is diamond. It must be purchased by the suitable customer. Because there is no customer I shall throw it away? So we have got diamond. It is not possible that everyone will purchase it, but there must be diamonds. People must know that "Here is diamond. If I want it, I must pay the proper price." That I want to establish. Why India's culture should be lost in this way, in the wilderness?I am not cheap patriot like Gandhi and... I want to give Indian culture to the whole world. I'm not going to cheat people, taking Bhagavad-gītā and speaking all nonsense. I want to present Bhagavad-gītā as it is. That is my mission. Why shall I cheat you, a gentleman?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: They wanted to study in Bhaktivedanta Institute.
Prabhupāda: Very good. Give them good place. We don't want tenants or... Turn the whole building into Bhaktivedanta Institute. And another building start. Yes. We have got enough place. I want that the intelligent man should come and learn this science. That is wanted.
Prabhupāda: All Indian scientists should join.
Dr. Sharma: Yes.
Prabhupāda: That I want. To keep people in darkness is not science. They are keeping people in darkness. They do not know how nature is working, how they are subjugated to the laws of nature and trying to be independent.
Prabhupāda: So India was expected after independence to give the real knowledge. But instead of giving the real knowledge, they became victimized by their glimmer of material civilization. So I wanted that such a magnificent gift from the side of India, it shall remain uncontributed to the world, let me try. This is my... This culture is based on Bhagavad-gītā, Kṛṣṇa. Therefore it is named Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
Prabhupāda: Bring. I want that at least at the weekend respectable gentlemen come here, live here, try to understand the philosophy, and if possible render some service. That's all. We have got now nice building. Every room is air conditioned. Not that you have to go to the jungle.
Girirāja: No, no, I will take. (taking prasādam)
Prabhupāda: So I am very glad that you have taken the prasādam. I am pleased. Therefore I wanted that you eat before me. It is a great pleasure.
Prabhupāda: Stick to our principle, and see our GBC is very alert. Then everything will go on, even I am not present. Do that. That is my request. Whatever little I have taught you, follow that, and nobody will be aggrieved. No māyā will touch you. Now Kṛṣṇa has given us, and there will be no scarcity of money. You print book and sell. So everything is there. We have got good shelter all over the world. We have got income. You stick to our principles, follow the... Even if I die suddenly, you'll be able to manage. That's all. That I want. Manage nicely and let the movement go forward. Now arrange. Don't go backward. Be careful. Āpani ācari prabhu jīveri śikṣāya.
Prabhupāda: You have got so exalted knowledge in India. You have kept it packed. And you are going to beg from others? Take this knowledge of Bhagavad-gītā and assimilate it, make your life successful, and distribute it throughout the whole world. That I want. (Hindi) Knowledge, real knowledge, is in India. (Hindi) Therefore Caitanya Mahāprabhu said,
Indians, they are fortunate. They have got their birth in Bhāratavarṣa. The knowledge is here. So assimilate this knowledge. Make your life successful and distribute it to persons outside India. That is paropakāra. That is real paropakāra. That is real sevā. But sevā, no. It is dayā. The sevā cannot be used. Sevā means offered to the superior. And to the inferior, if you want to do something, that is dayā. There are words. Sevā is only capable to accept, Kṛṣṇa. Sevonmukhe hi jihvādau svayam eva sphuraty adaḥ (Brs. 1.2.234).
Prabhupāda: That is real work. If the Prime Minister has got this thing in his brain, then I can understand that he can do so.
Mahāṁśa: And this is a very nice thing he said, Prabhupāda. He said that "We want to improve things in the countryside to an extent that people from the cities start running to the villages."
Prabhupāda: Yes. That I want. I... Everywhere I go and say, how these rascals...? So much land is lying, and these rascals are not developing. And they are making... What is that? Coal stone. Coal. They are interested with these bricks and stones, not green vegetables. Such a rascal government.
Prabhupāda: Let them engage in kīrtana. There will be more water for gardening, and it will be moist, and then produce fodder for the animals and food for you. And animal gives you milk. That is Vṛndāvana life. And they are absorbed in this so-called opulence. Kṛṣṇa has taken birth. They are bringing so many nice, pleasant foodstuff, very well-dressed and ornamented. These are description. In the morning we were reading. How they were happy, the inhabitants of Vṛndāvana with Kṛṣṇa and living and cows. That I want to introduce. At any cost do it and... Don't bother about big, big buildings. It is not required. Useless waste of time. Produce. Make the whole field green. See that. Then whole economic question solved. Then you eat sumptuous. Eat sumptuously. The animal is happy. The animal even does not give milk; let them eat and pass stool and urine. That is welcome.
Prabhupāda: I think it is all right. It is all right. Bring this typed. Make everything. That's all right.
Rāmeśvara: This will make it impossible for anyone to cheat.
Prabhupāda: Yes, as far as I can see, finished. Yes. Jaya.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Now the next group will come, Śrīla Prabhupāda, for kīrtana.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.
Devotees: Jaya Śrīla Prabhupāda. (break)
Prabhupāda: Now he is introducing in Russian language a textbook. In Russian, is it not?
Harikeśa: Polish.
Prabhupāda: Poland. They have been introduced. This is achievement. I want that. Hm. Go on.
Gargamuni: Well, during the day the electricity goes off all over Vṛndāvana.
Prabhupāda: Oh. So it is not that...
Gargamuni: It is not that he is turning it off.
Prabhupāda: Oh. (Hindi)
Indian man (1): (Hindi) (Hindi conversation)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So it's not that Gauracānda is playing any trick or anything.
Prabhupāda: No.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It's not that Gauracānda is doing any trick.
Prabhupāda: No, that's right. I can understand.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I mean, I spoke with Gauracānda when I was there, and I have to say he had sincere feelings.
Gargamuni: And when I lived there, there were many nights when we had to work with candlelight. So it's a fact. The power does go off.
Prabhupāda: Anyway, that's all right. I want that he should not play any trick. That's all.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, he's not.
Prabhupāda: Then it's all right. No, in the court also there is a trick. There is no name, our.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Within the court?
Indian man: No name.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No...?
Indian man: Prabhupāda's name is not there. Within the...
Gargamuni: No, his case is...
Indian man: ...offendant and defendant, no name of Prabhupāda.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: As soon as we go out and preach, I think we can get...
Prabhupāda: (Bengali) You are all qualified. I can give you ideas. Now I am doing. So I wanted to see that you are all busy. That I want because now I am becoming invalid. I cannot move very swiftly here and there. But if you move, I take pleasure. There is a Bengali proverb, na pajimane na jamai datta(?). A old lady, so she has lost her husband. She cannot joke. Husband, wife, they exchange some joking word. So with whom she will joke? Then the grandson-in-law, grandson... So in our society, Bengal, the grandson-in-law... I have got experience also. When I was newly married grandson-in-law, so my grandmother-in-law was joking with me like anything, more than husband. (laughter) And granddaughter-in-law. So we sit down and she talks very openly everything. We remember that. Because she was enjoying. By talking like that, free, with granddaughter and grandson-in-law, she was enjoying. And we were also enjoying. So my position is like that. I cannot move now very swiftly here and there, becoming invalid. So if I see that you are doing these things, that will give me pleasure. Yes. Granddaughter-in-law.
Rāmeśvara: So if this document is prepared, it does not have to be advertised, but if at any point there is some contention, we can show that this was...
Prabhupāda: Made.
Rāmeśvara: ...made in June of 1977, that this is the...
Prabhupāda: Registered.
Rāmeśvara: Registered. That that is the intention. Mr. Sharma said this will be sufficient to avoid any income tax or other tax on such holdings.
Prabhupāda: That I want. That's all.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah. Because sometimes they've said, "Oh, it's in your Guru Mahārāja's personal name," and you always said, "It's not my personal money." This will show that.
Prabhupāda: Benāmadāra.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. 'Cause actually, whenever you told us to buy properties, we always wrote your name and then "Founder-Ācārya of the International Society for..."
Prabhupāda: That's all right. So do it. Manage nicely.
Bhakti-caitanya: Prabhupāda says that he has not said to get from Visanchand.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He has not said to get from Visanchand. I only heard that.
Prabhupāda: The... I wanted from Visanchand because he has got this. And I wanted that washing glass from the market. It can be had from any medical shop.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, Dr. Sharma is waiting outside. Should I go back to him?
Prabhupāda: Um hm. (aside:) You can go out. (break) ...but still, I have given you chance. So you want simply... Just like a widow. We... But we want that you may not be disturbed. Go ahead. Do business and have big building. Everyone's constructing big, big building, Marwaris.
Prabhupāda: That is business, competition. You are doing your business; I am doing my business. That competition is there in every business. When there is business, you cannot dictate me in your favor: "While you are doing this, my business is being hampered." Who will hear you? Hm? If you say it is competition, that "Why you are doing like this? It is hampering my business," I'll say, "Yes, I want that your business may be hampered; my business may prosper." That's it.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Cut-throat.
Prabhupāda: We want that.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Everybody admits that no one can beat us in our book distribution. Other groups, they tried to duplicate what we are doing, but they failed.
Prabhupāda: No, what they have got, books?
Prabhupāda: So you give some... We are getting many other land. If your becomes ideal, you can teach them. People are coming for chanting?
Yaśomatīnandana: Yes. One gṛhastha is there, and the first week he went there, every night three hundred people were coming.
Prabhupāda: That's it.
Yaśomatīnandana: And that was in the middle of the desert. Not desert, in the middle of like jungle, you know.
Prabhupāda: That I want.
Yaśomatīnandana: It's fifteen minutes away from the...
Prabhupāda: We don't want any profit. We don't want any profit. You produce. You eat. You chant. Organize. Don't go outside.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: I have it all ready. So all I have to do is just change the front page, The Scientific Basis of Bhakti...
Prabhupāda: You consult among you. So I want to see simply distribution of books in any language. That I want.
Yaśomatīnandana: I'm still printing Bhāgavata Darśana every month.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: We just sent fifteen hundred of the last three issues to England—Gujarati.
Prabhupāda: Gujarati. Gujarati you can send anywhere. It will be... Any outside, in outside, outside India, any country, Gujaratis are there—Africa, Europe, America. Africa is Gujarati country. England. England also. All the guests we receive from pandals.
Prabhupāda: As far as..., don't tax me. And printing, don't mind for price. Do it quickly and nicely.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: That is... As quickly as possible. No manuscript should be left vacant. That I want. Here and there I have more money invested. Now you don't...
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: No. We're not leaving anything.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Round-table conference. There will be other scientists from Delhi, like D. S. Kotari. D. S. Kotari is the ex-chairman of University Grants Commission. He's a very well known physicist. He's a very interested... I think he's the most interested in India in our field. He's retired and very respected. All Indian scientific community... Actually, this was his idea, that we set up a round-table conference in Indian National Science Academy. So we agreed to that. We'll have some sort of a debating form. So I'll bring all our members, and we'll have conference in Delhi. Also Krishnamurti... He's the director of television in Delhi. He's going to make some arrangement for us after the conference for the television appearance in New Delhi. Also most of the schools, they want us come and speak on the same topics that we are organizing here.
Prabhupāda: We want that they should be interested.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Oh, yes. They are very interested. All the universities, wherever I went, everybody thought that this was a very genuine idea, and they wanted to know more about it. Also the chief guest who is coming this evening... I discussed briefly yesterday. He was... Actually he's a very well known figure in the United Nations. He represented several times in the United Nations program, and he spoke also many times in the U.N., and he was... We were discussing briefly about the limitations of science and the scientists are sometimes trying to speak so many big words without any scientific background, especially in the case of life. So actually he's going to speak in favor of our Kṛṣṇa consciousness. He suggested that this Kṛṣṇa consciousness is a movement like United Nations.
Prabhupāda: Not necessarily. But where (whether?) the conference is going on or Bhagatji's feast is going on? This is perplexing me.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Why it is? Because some of the devotees may leave by next week. So Bhagatji wanted to have a feast when everyone was here. And I told him to arrange then for Thursday, which was yesterday. But he said that that was not sufficient time. Therefore then I told him, "Then if you can't arrange for Thursday, then the best day is Friday, because Saturday and Sunday are the more important days of the conference." I advised him that the feast should not be held simultaneously with the conference, but he said that there was no... (break) In other words, I attended the lecture and the program, but I came out on account of Bhagatji's invitation. The lecture should have been over by one according to their program that they published. But on account of the scientists' arriving late, they did not want to push anyone. This was the whole point, Śrīla Prabhupāda. I think it's just a, what would you call it, a circumstantial mistake. It was not planned that the two would..., one would interfere with the other. And the conference is in no way being interfered with. It's going on.
Prabhupāda: That I want.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. The conference is going on. Anybody who's required in the conference is there. But some of the sannyāsīs and GBC's are choosing to go to Bhagatji's. But the conference people who are involved, they are all at the conference, and many devotees are there also. I think it's all right.
Prabhupāda: All right.
Prabhupāda: You have got any (indistinct). Where is Girirāja?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He went into the city today for picking up the fixed deposit receipts. That was the main thing.
Prabhupāda: City?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Delhi. Because the receipts are being turned over to the head office, so they have to be endorsed there. So he went for that purpose. There's not much more to do now with this Panchashil flat, because we're going to give it. So simply it will be up to Vrindavan to make up the necessary document for transferring it. I think it doesn't even require a big document. Simply a letter on behalf of Your Divine Grace saying that "We give this apartment to you."
Prabhupāda: But one thing, if they can dispose?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, they may try and sell it.
Prabhupāda: No, no, I don't want that.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, but when you give them that, that's what they may do.
Prabhupāda: Then don't give him. Let them live there, but...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So then the question again comes up, which I mentioned to you, that if they're paying corporation taxes and other taxes, then they become the legal tenant, and a tenant does not lose the right of tenancy at his death. His children inherit it.
Prabhupāda:. Well, what is that?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay. So then it's not for their lifetime; it's forever.
Prabhupāda: There is no harm. They cannot mortgage or...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Sublet it.
Prabhupāda: Yes. They can simply live. I wanted that because he is formerly working for BBT... Work or not work, we asked him... Therefore we have given them a place to stay in right hand, and they can live, left hand, all of them. They cannot have the right to mortgage, sale, like that. That is our aim. They can live happily. This much I want. And if we give them right of proprietorship, the rascal may sell it or get out.
Prabhupāda: Do you think I shall die very quickly?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Do you think I shall die very quick?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, I don't think you shall die.
Prabhupāda: I wanted that kavirāja last night, so he was not possible?(?)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Which one?
Prabhupāda: That kavirāja from Calcutta.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You wanted him? So he's coming.
Prabhupāda: When he's coming?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He's supposed to be here any moment, Śrīla Prabhupāda. (whispering) Hm. I'll check my schedule.
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Prabhupāda: I want simply once parikrama.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: One mahā-parikrama?
Prabhupāda: No.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, one time around. Not many times.
Prabhupāda: No, no. As I am doing, that much. Medicine, no medicine...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, actually we're also wanting you to do parikrama, but we would..., one day we are hoping to see you walking the parikrama.
Prabhupāda: That's all right. For the time being, if by parikrama, fainting, dying, that is a glorious. That I want. Will it be great burden?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, no. That's not the question, of burden. The only thing is that we want you to get better. There's no question of burden.
Prabhupāda: No, no, better...
Jayādvaita: Burden of love.
Prabhupāda: Better... If suppose I am sure to die, then where is better?
| Page Title: | I want that (Conversations) |
| Compiler: | Visnu Murti |
| Created: | 10 of Nov, 2010 |
| Totals by Section: | BG=0, SB=0, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=0, Con=75, Let=0 |
| No. of Quotes: | 75 |