Sometimes the atheist class of men, they think these are stories. "Where is Yamarāja? Where is his place? How he is talking? These are all made into stories." But that is not the actual fact. Śukadeva Gosvāmī is reciting, repeating the words of Yamarāja and accepted by great ācāryas like Śrīdhara Svāmī, Jīva Gosvāmī, so does it mean, even Caitanya Mahāprabhu, does it mean that all these great ācāryas they indulged in some stories? No, that's not, it is fact but because you do not know what is the actual position therefore it is our misconception that these topics are stories made by some fictitious man. Therefore they interpret in a different way—but actually that is not the fact. Just like the leader of the atheist class of men is Cārvāka Muni, Cārvāka, he has got a philosophy, atheistic philosophy—Cārvāka Muni. So he says that:
- bhasmī-bhūtasya dehasya kutaḥ
- punar āgamano bhavet
- ṛṇaṁ kṛtvā ghṛtaṁ pibet
- yāvaj jīvet sukhaṁ jīvet
He says, his philosophy—hedonism, "That so long you live, you live very happily." In India the standard of living happily is to eat more ghee, that is a luxury. One who can eat more ghee, he is considered to be eating very luxurious foodstuff and actually that is a fact. So his theory is that, "You eat more ghee, as much as possible. Enjoy, eat more and sleep more and have sex life more and that is his philosophy—enjoy materially. "Eat, drink, be merry and enjoy." Then he says that, "Oh I have no sufficient money, how I shall purchase ghee?" Just like in some European philosophies: beg, borrow or steal. For money either beg, take a profession of a sannyāsī and beg and take money and enjoy or if you can not do so then try to borrow and if that is not possible then steal. What can be done? Money is wanted. So similarly Cārvāka Muni also said that, "Live very happily and eat as much as you like—ghee." Then if you are, "I have no sufficient money, if I borrow then I shall remain a debtor. I shall be responsible." Because that's a fact according to karma, laws, if you take some money without proper utilization.