Indian man (4): Swāmījī, may I ask, just to . . . as my friend has just said about the teaching of . . . in the battlefield, Śrī Kṛṣṇa, about the verse about . . . yadā yadā hi dharmasya glānir bhavati bhārata (BG 4.7). It is an oft-repeated phrase or śloka which has gone deep into the subconscious mind of the Ind . . . especially the Hindu people have taken it, probably because of the all of the wrong interpretations, that why should we go and tire ourself or make effort? If we are in trouble, let us wait for the God to come down to the earth, and He will help us and do what we need or defend us.
Prabhupāda: That is your instruction. That is not God's instruction.
Indian man (4): But it has been.
Prabhupāda: No.
Indian man (4): According to my . . .
Prabhupāda: The God says that, "Here is injustice, so you should fight." God says that. God never says that, "I am God, Kṛṣṇa. I am your friend. You sit down idly and I shall do everything." He never said that. He said that, "You must fight." That is our duty. Not that God has given us hands and legs and you sit down idly and let God do it. This is not devotion.
Indian man (4): Then you agree with me that this oft-repeated śloka has created a state of fatalism among the Hindu community?
Prabhupāda: What is that?
Indian man (4): That yadā yadā hi . . .
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Fatalism. This verse created fatalism, fatalism, a sense of hopelessness.
Prabhupāda: Hopelessness?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Pessimism. Fatalism.
Brahmānanda: It has been interpreted that this verse means that God will come, and therefore we don't have to do anything.
Prabhupāda: God is always present. You carry out the order of God. God is always present. You carry out the order of the Lord.
Indian man (4): The verse is clear, yadā yadā hi dharmasya (BG 4.7).
Prabhupāda: Yes. So that is being done every moment. Every moment we are forgetting our dharma and God is giving us instruction.
Indian man (4): Well, there is a state of . . . this state of fatalism which is prevalent in India and among . . .
Prabhupāda: It is not spoken to India. It is spoken to everyone. India, why do you bring "India"? God is not made for India.
Indian man (4): But I have nothing in India, but I know India, so . . .
Prabhupāda: Then why you say India.
Indian man (4): I have seen India. I know India.
Prabhupāda: No, why you bring India at all? God is not meant for India.
Indian man (4): But Hinduism . . . let us say Hinduism.
Prabhupāda: No no, God is not meant for Hindu.