Devotee: I asked one person, and he said: "Everything." He said he was everything.
Prabhupāda: He was everything.
Devotee: He said he was everything.
Prabhupāda: He was. Oh, "How you became . . ." He was not. He is not? Then ask him, the next question. He was everything. That's all right.
Devotee: Then he simply talks jugglery words.
Prabhupāda: That you also, you have to get. That's all right. He was once God. He was once rich. That's all right. But how he has become poor? He was at sometimes God, accepted. But how he has become dog instead of God? But God is susceptible to such falldown? Then what kind of God he is? If God is subjected sometimes to falldown, then he is not all-powerful.
Then the cause which has made him fall down, that is powerful. Therefore he is not God. God is all-powerful. So why other power will make him to come down from the position of God? Then that power is powerful. But God is all-powerful; therefore he is not God. This is common reasoning.
God cannot be subjected to any other external . . . just like according to Biblical philosophy, "God and Satan." God is never under the influence of Satan. Is there any statement in the Bible that "God has become under the influence of Satan"? Then Satan become great, God is not great.
Similarly, if by some cause, by Satanic cause, one has fallen down from the position of God to the position of dog, then that Satan is greater than God. But God is great. Therefore he is not God. Gaursundara? How do you think this argument?
Gaursundara: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Yes. God cannot be under the influence of anything so that He may fall down. That is not God. Because God is all-powerful. Why He should be influenced by any other power? Then what kind of God? Then he is not God. Just try to understand how to argue. Then you will be able to argue with them. Yes. Ask any other question in that connection. I shall try to explain.