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<h2>Lectures</h2>
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<h3>Initiation Lectures</h3>
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Initiation means now we are in the consciousness of this body, which is never eternal, temporary. So we are going to Kṛṣṇa consciousness means we are going to our eternal consciousness. We are changing from the temporary, bodily consciousness to the eternal consciousness. This is the sum and substance of Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
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[[Vanisource:680729 - Lecture Initiation - Montreal|680729 - Lecture Initiation - Montreal]]:
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So two boys who are now ready to be initiated, my request to all, especially to boys who are just going to be initiated, that this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is authorized because, even grant . . . taking it for granted that it has begun from Kṛṣṇa, then it is at least five thousand years old. Kṛṣṇa appeared on this planet five thousand years ago. So if you take history of any religious or any cultural program within this world, no religion, no cultural program is older than 2,000 years or 2,500 years. But this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, even according to history, it is five thousand years old, the oldest than any principles of religion or culture.

And if you go above historical references, then it is coming down from millions and millions of years past, because it was first instructed, as we understand from the ''Bhagavad-gītā'', that it was first instructed to ''Sūrya. Imaṁ vivasvate proktam'' ([[Vanisource:BG 4.1 (1972)|BG 4.1]]): "I first of all spoke this science to Vivasvān, Sūrya." Sūrya means sun-god. So nobody can trace out history when sun-god took the lessons, but we can have little information from ''Manu-saṁhitā'', because Manu's age, Vivasvān . . . this age is called Vaivasvata Manu. So in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'' it is said that first of all this initiation was given by Kṛṣṇa to Vaivasvata, and he instructed his son, whose name is Vaivasvata Manu. So Vaivasvata Manu, by calculation we can understand forty millions of years ago. 

So this is not a new system that we are introducing or manufacturing by our concocted imagination, but it is authorized, coming down by disciplic succession from time immemorial. It may be that in this country it is being introduced for the last two or three years, but this system is the oldest system, oldest system, just like we are ''nityaḥ śāśvataḥ purāṇaḥ'' ([[Vanisource:BG 2.20 (1972)|BG 2.20]]). In the ''Bhagavad-gītā'' it is said that the soul is eternal and ''Purāṇa''. ''Purāṇa'' means the oldest. ''Purāṇa''. And in the ''Brahma-saṁhitā'' it is also said, ''advaitam acyutam anādim ananta-rūpam ādyam purāṇa-puruṣam'' ([[Vanisource:Bs. 5.33|Bs. 5.33]]).

So Kṛṣṇa is also the oldest. Either Kṛṣṇa or the living creatures, all of them are the oldest, because they have no death, no birth. There is no history. ''Na jāyate na mriyate'' ([[Vanisource:BG 2.20 (1972)|BG 2.20]]). ''Bhagavad-gītā'' says that the living entity, what to speak of God . . . they say: "God is dead." This is all nonsense. What to speak of God, even these living creatures, they are not dead. The death program is for this body, just like changing, changing the body, er, changing the dress. So if one changes one dress or apartment, that does not mean that he is dead. Similarly, if we change this body to another body . . . as we are changing our body constantly, every moment, similarly, if we change this body to another body, that does not mean death. 

So death is not accepted in the Vedic literature. So either God or the living creature, nobody dies. Everyone is eternal, ''śāśvata purāṇa''. Similarly, as we are the oldest and eternal, similarly, this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is also the oldest and eternal. (break)

So initiation means now we are in the consciousness of this body, which is never eternal—temporary. So we are going to Kṛṣṇa consciousness means we are going to our eternal consciousness. We are changing from the temporary, bodily consciousness to the eternal consciousness. This is the sum and substance of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. 

And we invite all ladies and gentlemen to come to our classes. We hold our classes three days in a week—Monday, Wednesday and Friday. So everyone is welcome, and everyone can inquire and understand the principles of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. And if one is fortunate enough to understand what is this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is, then his life will be perfect and successful.
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