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So here it is said that if you want that sort of liberation, then mahat-sevāṁ dvāram āhur vimukteḥ [[Vanisource:SB 5.5.2|SB 5.5.2]] . If you want that sort of liberation, then associate with mahātmās, great souls. And if you want to be stuck up in this material world, then you associate with persons who are addicted to sense gratification. That's all. Two processes. If you be addicted to the process of sense gratification... Like animals. They have no other information. They are simply engaged in sense gratification: eating, sleeping, mating, and defending. That's all. Their business finished. They do not know anything else. If I call some animals... Why people are not taking part in this Kṛṣṇa consciousness? Because they are animals. They are appearing with four hands and legs, but they have been trained to become animals. So they cannot take. But we are trying to train them from animalism to humanism by associating with this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. This Caitanya Mahāprabhu's movement is to give chance to this animalistic civilization to associate with devotees and mahātmās so that they can also become devotee and mahātmā. You associate with mahātmā, you become mahātmā. You associate with debauch, you become debauch. Practical. We have taken from the debauchery condition all our disciples. But they are now mahātmās. It is possible. By this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement we can turn debauch into mahātmā. That is possible. Caitanya Mahāprabhu's movement is so nice.
So here it is said that if you want that sort of liberation, then ''mahat-sevāṁ dvāram āhur vimukteḥ'' ([[Vanisource:SB 5.5.2|SB 5.5.2]]). If you want that sort of liberation, then associate with ''mahātmās'', great souls. And if you want to be stuck up in this material world, then you associate with persons who are addicted to sense gratification. That's all. Two processes. If you be addicted to the process of sense gratification . . . like animals; they have no other information. They are simply engaged in sense gratification: eating, sleeping, mating, and defending. That's all. Their business finished. They do not know anything else.  
 
If I call some animals . . . why people are not taking part in this Kṛṣṇa consciousness? Because they are animals. They are appearing with four hands and legs, but they have been trained to become animals. So they cannot take. But we are trying to train them from animalism to humanism by associating with this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement.  
 
This Caitanya Mahāprabhu's movement is to give chance to this animalistic civilization to associate with devotees and ''mahātmās'' so that they can also become devotee and ''mahātmā''. You associate with ''mahātmā'', you become ''mahātmā''. You associate with debauch, you become debauch. Practical. We have taken from the debauchery condition all our disciples. But they are now ''mahātmās''. It is possible. By this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement we can turn debauch into ''mahātmā''. That is possible. Caitanya Mahāprabhu's movement is so nice.


Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura sings, pāpī-tāpī jata chilo hari-nāme uddhārilo, tāra sākṣī jagāi mādhāi. Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura says that "Caitanya Mahāprabhu, by His saṅkīrtana movement, has delivered all kinds of fallen souls," pāpī-tāpī. Pāpī means sinful and tāpī means suffering. If you become sinful, then you must suffer. If you... Just like if you contaminate some disease, you must suffer. Similarly, if you contaminate sinful activity, then you must suffer. Pāpī-tāpī jata chilo hari-nāme uddhārilo. They have been delivered. So how they have been delivered? Tāra sākṣī jagāi mādhāi. The living example is Jagāi and Mādhāi. What was the Jagāi-Mādhāi's fault that he's considered pāpī-tāpī? They were addicted to these four principles: illicit sex, meat-eating, intoxication, and gambling. They were addicted to these principles. They were born in high brāhmaṇa family, but by bad association they became drunkard number one, womanhunters, meat-eaters and gamblers and guṇḍās, like anything. But Caitanya Mahāprabhu delivered them. Caitanya Mahāprabhu's process was that He used to send daily His devotees to go and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and preach Hare Kṛṣṇa just like we are trying to do here.
Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura sings, ''pāpī-tāpī jata chilo hari-nāme uddhārilo'', ''tāra sākṣī jagāi'' and ''mādhāi''. Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura says that "Caitanya Mahāprabhu, by His ''saṅkīrtana'' movement, has delivered all kinds of fallen souls," ''pāpī-tāpī''. ''Pāpī'' means sinful and ''tāpī'' means suffering. If you become sinful, then you must suffer. If you . . . just like if you contaminate some disease, you must suffer. Similarly, if you contaminate sinful activity, then you must suffer. ''Pāpī-tāpī jata chilo hari-nāme uddhārilo''. They have been delivered.  
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So how they have been delivered? ''Tāra sākṣī jagāi'' and ''mādhāi''. The living example is Jagāi and Mādhāi. What was the Jagāi-Mādhāi's fault that he's considered ''pāpī-tāpī''? They were addicted to these four principles: illicit sex, meat-eating, intoxication and gambling. They were addicted to these principles. They were born in high ''brahmin'' family, but by bad association they became drunkard number one, woman-hunters, meat-eaters and gamblers and ''guṇḍās'', like anything. But Caitanya Mahāprabhu delivered them. Caitanya Mahāprabhu's process was that He used to send daily His devotees to go and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and preach Hare Kṛṣṇa, just like we are trying to do here.
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Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures

Why people are not taking part in this Kṛṣṇa consciousness? Because they are animals. They are appearing with four hands and legs, but they have been trained to become animals. So they cannot take. But we are trying to train them from animalism to humanism by associating with this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. This Caitanya Mahāprabhu's movement is to give chance to this animalistic civilization to associate with devotees and mahātmās so that they can also become devotee and mahātmā. You associate with mahātmā, you become mahātmā. You associate with debauch, you become debauch.


So here it is said that if you want that sort of liberation, then mahat-sevāṁ dvāram āhur vimukteḥ (SB 5.5.2). If you want that sort of liberation, then associate with mahātmās, great souls. And if you want to be stuck up in this material world, then you associate with persons who are addicted to sense gratification. That's all. Two processes. If you be addicted to the process of sense gratification . . . like animals; they have no other information. They are simply engaged in sense gratification: eating, sleeping, mating, and defending. That's all. Their business finished. They do not know anything else.

If I call some animals . . . why people are not taking part in this Kṛṣṇa consciousness? Because they are animals. They are appearing with four hands and legs, but they have been trained to become animals. So they cannot take. But we are trying to train them from animalism to humanism by associating with this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement.

This Caitanya Mahāprabhu's movement is to give chance to this animalistic civilization to associate with devotees and mahātmās so that they can also become devotee and mahātmā. You associate with mahātmā, you become mahātmā. You associate with debauch, you become debauch. Practical. We have taken from the debauchery condition all our disciples. But they are now mahātmās. It is possible. By this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement we can turn debauch into mahātmā. That is possible. Caitanya Mahāprabhu's movement is so nice.

Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura sings, pāpī-tāpī jata chilo hari-nāme uddhārilo, tāra sākṣī jagāi and mādhāi. Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura says that "Caitanya Mahāprabhu, by His saṅkīrtana movement, has delivered all kinds of fallen souls," pāpī-tāpī. Pāpī means sinful and tāpī means suffering. If you become sinful, then you must suffer. If you . . . just like if you contaminate some disease, you must suffer. Similarly, if you contaminate sinful activity, then you must suffer. Pāpī-tāpī jata chilo hari-nāme uddhārilo. They have been delivered.

So how they have been delivered? Tāra sākṣī jagāi and mādhāi. The living example is Jagāi and Mādhāi. What was the Jagāi-Mādhāi's fault that he's considered pāpī-tāpī? They were addicted to these four principles: illicit sex, meat-eating, intoxication and gambling. They were addicted to these principles. They were born in high brahmin family, but by bad association they became drunkard number one, woman-hunters, meat-eaters and gamblers and guṇḍās, like anything. But Caitanya Mahāprabhu delivered them. Caitanya Mahāprabhu's process was that He used to send daily His devotees to go and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and preach Hare Kṛṣṇa, just like we are trying to do here.