Prabhupāda: So against that, they can give. Bank can give.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I can write a letter to Girirāja. It will take some time. Vrindavan will have to go to Bombay for this if he wants to negotiate this loan. The loan has to be between the bank and him, not between our Society and the bank. That's my point. It's his private business. It has to be kept on a basis like that. Otherwise it's... If the bank... Girirāja may help them. Now we've given the bank instruction that five persons... See, one thing is that all... (break) This... If you think this arrangement suitable, then give them...
Vrindavan De: It is, moreover, a prestigious issue to us. And we have already committed them that we are able to supply, although we don't have any sufficient money. (laughs)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So I think, based upon this scheme...
Vrindavan De: And that's why I sent my man twice to...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I know, but Prabhupāda was not... We never saw your man. He missed us. He missed both times.
Vrindavan De: When he came here, Prabhupāda had already left for London. And when my man went to Bombay, already left for Vṛndāvana.
Prabhupāda: But in business field, if the bank sees that you have got fifty percent, they will advance. If you have got fifty percent, any transaction, you want to do some business...
Vrindavan De: One thing, Tamāla, you know, I would like to have Prabhupāda's car for the time being.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But Prabhupāda said you had to pay five thousand rupees to BBT. That you haven't done.
Vrindavan De: After paying of this amount the car may be arranged.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But first of all you have to pay the money.
Vrindavan De: All right, I will... (Bengali )
Prabhupāda: (Bengali)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We already told you that if you paid that money, Prabhupāda said then you can have the use of the car. But they have not received that money from you. I mean, actually, the fact of the matter is that you have got a 25,000 rupee bill outstanding, which you have not hardly paid anything for in over a year. Now, from the point of view of business, this is not very good business.
Vrindavan De: I received a letter from Prabhupāda a couple of month ago that the amount which is due from us to BBT, that amount should be adjusted through order, which Gargamuni...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No. Actually if you read the letter carefully you'll see that Prabhupāda pointed out that the amount that you would get on credit from Gargamuni was equal to the amount of your bill. He didn't say that it would be adjusted. I have a copy of the letter. It doesn't say that it will be adjusted against that.
Vrindavan De: No. Prabhupāda advised Gargamuni to pay interest in our favor to the BBT account to clear out our plea.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So far I... I know it's being paid to your account.
Vrindavan De: That is why I have not sent any money to BBT. Anyway, I'm arranging to pay BBT immediately.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Some money should be paid. I mean 25,000 rupees' books were taken, and no money was received. Very little money was received. I mean, I think to establish credibility some money should be paid. It's only right. The BBT has supplied books. Some money should come back. Otherwise there's a feeling that it's a very one-way business—simply books go out and no money ever is coming in. I think that from your side there should be some... Prabhupāda's only point with the car was to get you to give some money towards the BBT. That was the whole point. Otherwise he could give you the use of the car right away, but he wanted to encourage you that some money should be given to the BBT. The car is there in Māyāpur.
Vrindavan De: I shall send three thousand rupees, as I have committed.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: When you send five thousand, then take the car.
Vrindavan De: At present I have arranged to pay BBT immediately three thousand.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That's good.
Vrindavan De: But I must get the confirmation. Otherwise he is not ready to deliver the car.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, I told the BBT that they should write you as soon as they receive five thousand rupees.
Mādhava: (indistinct) the car is there.
Vrindavan De: I must have some letters. On the strength of the letters I can leave.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What letters?
Vrindavan De: That "Please allow the car to Prabhupāda's son."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: The letter is already there. I've sent him a letter with... I sent the letter, so he knows that. The letter is there. But they have to receive five thousand rupees from you, and then they'll release the car.
Vrindavan De: Because if the confirmation of the amount received by mail reaches very late, the...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But you have not sent the money, Vrindavan. So why you're worried about the letter reaching late? First of all send the money, then worry about it. There's no worry. Once you send the money, the letter will come. I don't think that you can doubt that the letter will come. The main point is that the money has to come first. You have no reason to suppose that the letter will be delayed. It will come. They already know it. As soon as they receive five thousand rupees, the BBT, Bombay, will immediately inform Māyāpur, "Five thousand rupees been received. The car may be given." They know that. It's set up. It's a set-up. And you have to live up to your side to pay the five thousand rupees. It's not very much. It's not that much.
Prabhupāda: Now, with the help of Tamāla Kṛṣṇa and... Who else? Chandra. You can...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Take this order, I think.
Prabhupāda: Yes. And if the bank sees that you have got fifty percent, they will advance.