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So to become Vaiṣṇava is not so easy thing. One has to become brāhmaṇa, then when he surpasses the stages of becoming brāhmaṇa, then he becomes Vaiṣṇava. Śuddha-sattva. Sattvaṁ viśuddhaṁ vasudeva-śabditam ([[Vanisource:SB 4.3.23|SB 4.3.23]]). Then Kṛṣṇa is born. When one comes to the Vaiṣṇava stage, then he can understand what is Kṛṣṇa. Just like Kṛṣṇa was born of Vasudeva. Similarly, when one comes to the stage of Vasudeva... Vasudeva means perfect Vaiṣṇava. Do you think Kṛṣṇa accepts somebody as father, an ordinary man? No. He is perfect Vaiṣṇava. Kṛṣṇa accepts somebody as mother... Who is His mother, father? Nobody can be. He is the ādi-puruṣam. He's original person. Who can become His father, mother? But He accepts, when He descends to exhibit His līlā... Yadā yadā hi dharmasya glānir bhavati bhārata tadātmānam sṛjāmy aham ([[Vanisource:BG 4.7|BG 4.7]]). So He is everyone's father. How Vasudeva can be...? Ajo'pi sann avyayātmā ([[Vanisource:BG 4.6|BG 4.6]]). (break) Very exalted devotee, He accepts him as father or mother. And therefore one has to learn everything scientifically. Janma karma ca me divyam ([[Vanisource:BG 4.9|BG 4.9]]). Don't take ordinarily: "Oh, Kṛṣṇa is born of a father, Vasudeva, and of a mother, Devakī. That's all. We know He was born." No. One has to learn who is His father, who is His mother, how He accepts His devotee as father. That is called yo jānāti tattvataḥ. This is tattvataḥ.
A ''brāhmaṇa ''will never speak lies. That is the first qualification. So who is going to take training in that way? Nobody is interested. This is Kali-yuga. We are trying to train people, "No illicit sex, no meat-eating, no gambling, no intoxication." Still, there are some failures. And if we teach in our institution, "Please do not speak lies," people will laugh: "What is this nonsense? Nowadays is it possible to remain in this society without speaking lies?" This is the position. This is called Kali-yuga. Nobody is interested to be trained up as a ''brāhmaṇa''. Nobody is interested to be trained up as a ''kṣatriya'', neither as a ''vaiśya''. They are all ''śūdras''. Therefore it is said, ''kalau śūdra-sambhavaḥ''. There is no training. It is very, very difficult to train them to become purified by training. These status of life were different status of training, so that ultimately one can become ''brāhmaṇa'', and when he's fully trained up as a ''brāhmaṇa ''then he transcends the ''brāhmaṇa's ''position, and he becomes a Vaiṣṇava.
 
So to become Vaiṣṇava is not so easy thing. One has to become ''brāhmaṇa'', then when he surpasses the stages of becoming ''brāhmaṇa'', then he becomes Vaiṣṇava. ''Śuddha-sattva''. ''Sattvaṁ viśuddhaṁ vasudeva-śabditam ''([[vanisource:SB 4.3.23|SB 4.3.23]]). Then Kṛṣṇa is born. When one comes to the Vaiṣṇava stage, then he can understand what is Kṛṣṇa. Just like Kṛṣṇa was born of Vasudeva. Similarly, when one comes to the stage of Vasudeva . . . Vasudeva means perfect Vaiṣṇava. Do you think Kṛṣṇa accepts somebody as father, an ordinary man? No. He is perfect Vaiṣṇava. Kṛṣṇa accepts somebody as mother . . . Who is His mother, father? Nobody can be. He is the ''ādi-puruṣam''. He's original person. Who can become His father, mother? But He accepts, when He descends to exhibit His ''līlā ''. . . ''Yadā yadā hi dharmasya glānir bhavati bhārata tadātmānam sṛjāmy aham ''([[vanisource:BG 4.7 (1972)|BG 4.7]]). So He is everyone's father. How Vasudeva can be . . .? ''Ajo'pi sann avyayātmā ''([[vanisource:BG 4.6 (1972)|BG 4.6]]). (break) Very exalted devotee, He accepts him as father or mother. And therefore one has to learn everything scientifically. ''Janma karma ca me divyam ''([[vanisource:BG 4.9 (1972)|BG 4.9]]). Don't take ordinarily: "Oh, Kṛṣṇa is born of a father, Vasudeva, and of a mother, Devakī. That's all. We know He was born." No. One has to learn who is His father, who is His mother, how He accepts His devotee as father. That is called ''yo jānāti tattvataḥ''. This is ''tattvataḥ''.
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Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures

To become Vaiṣṇava is not so easy thing. One has to become brāhmaṇa, then when he surpasses the stages of becoming brāhmaṇa, then he becomes Vaiṣṇava. Śuddha-sattva. Sattvaṁ viśuddhaṁ vasudeva-śabditam (SB 4.3.23). Then Kṛṣṇa is born. When one comes to the Vaiṣṇava stage, then he can understand what is Kṛṣṇa.


A brāhmaṇa will never speak lies. That is the first qualification. So who is going to take training in that way? Nobody is interested. This is Kali-yuga. We are trying to train people, "No illicit sex, no meat-eating, no gambling, no intoxication." Still, there are some failures. And if we teach in our institution, "Please do not speak lies," people will laugh: "What is this nonsense? Nowadays is it possible to remain in this society without speaking lies?" This is the position. This is called Kali-yuga. Nobody is interested to be trained up as a brāhmaṇa. Nobody is interested to be trained up as a kṣatriya, neither as a vaiśya. They are all śūdras. Therefore it is said, kalau śūdra-sambhavaḥ. There is no training. It is very, very difficult to train them to become purified by training. These status of life were different status of training, so that ultimately one can become brāhmaṇa, and when he's fully trained up as a brāhmaṇa then he transcends the brāhmaṇa's position, and he becomes a Vaiṣṇava.

So to become Vaiṣṇava is not so easy thing. One has to become brāhmaṇa, then when he surpasses the stages of becoming brāhmaṇa, then he becomes Vaiṣṇava. Śuddha-sattva. Sattvaṁ viśuddhaṁ vasudeva-śabditam (SB 4.3.23). Then Kṛṣṇa is born. When one comes to the Vaiṣṇava stage, then he can understand what is Kṛṣṇa. Just like Kṛṣṇa was born of Vasudeva. Similarly, when one comes to the stage of Vasudeva . . . Vasudeva means perfect Vaiṣṇava. Do you think Kṛṣṇa accepts somebody as father, an ordinary man? No. He is perfect Vaiṣṇava. Kṛṣṇa accepts somebody as mother . . . Who is His mother, father? Nobody can be. He is the ādi-puruṣam. He's original person. Who can become His father, mother? But He accepts, when He descends to exhibit His līlā . . . Yadā yadā hi dharmasya glānir bhavati bhārata tadātmānam sṛjāmy aham (BG 4.7). So He is everyone's father. How Vasudeva can be . . .? Ajo'pi sann avyayātmā (BG 4.6). (break) Very exalted devotee, He accepts him as father or mother. And therefore one has to learn everything scientifically. Janma karma ca me divyam (BG 4.9). Don't take ordinarily: "Oh, Kṛṣṇa is born of a father, Vasudeva, and of a mother, Devakī. That's all. We know He was born." No. One has to learn who is His father, who is His mother, how He accepts His devotee as father. That is called yo jānāti tattvataḥ. This is tattvataḥ.