Mr. Wadell: Yes. The problem is a very big one. We are, perhaps, sent into this earth to know or to learn how to love.
Prabhupāda: No. I have got some objection. You cannot begin any scientific statement with the word "perhaps." (W. laughs) We don't accept. You must be assured, you must be assured.
Mr. Wadell: I am merely saying... I do not wish to be presumptuous, if you understand me.
Prabhupāda: Well as soon as you say, "perhaps," "maybe," that is not... This has no meaning. Because it is not certain. You have no clear idea.
Mr. Wadell: But are there not things about which in the mortal life one can have no clear idea?
Prabhupāda: But if there is clear idea, why they should not take it? Why they should speculate "perhaps," "maybe"?
Mr. Wadell: But there are many things about which I cannot have any clear idea. I cannot...
Prabhupāda: No, you cannot have but if you get clear idea, why you do not take it.
Mr. Wadell: No, I mean even in the physical realm. I cannot at this moment conceive what it is like, say, to be in Sydney, in many cities in the world. There are many things, many bits of knowledge which I cannot have. I cannot be everywhere at once. I am here now. I do not even know what is happening in the place from which I have come.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Mr. Wadell: And I must accept that. I cannot be certain about that. Would you not agree?
Prabhupāda: But if there is a process... Suppose you are not in Sydney, but if there is a radio message from Sydney, how do you accept it?
Mr. Wadell: Oh, well, I'd believe it.
Prabhupāda: Then that is a question of belief.
Mr. Wadell: But that is not... Belief is not quite the same thing as...
Prabhupāda: No that is not belief; that is fact. Suppose a radio message is coming from Sydney, we accept it-fact. Although I am not in Sydney. So it is a question of process, how to receive the message. If the process is perfect, then the message is perfect.