Vīrabhadra: You said in your lecture that everybody... I think that's what you said, that everybody in the material world is...in māyā. But you can't be in māyā.
Prabhupāda: How do you think?
Vīrabhadra: You're spiritual, so you can't be in māyā. So how does that work?
Prabhupāda: How do you think that I am not in māyā?
Vīrabhadra: Because you're a pure devotee. You see Kṛṣṇa in everybody.
Prabhupāda: (laughs) Yes. Then a pure devotee is not in māyā. Do you agree to that?
Vīrabhadra: Uh huh.
Prabhupāda: So are you going to be a pure devotee?
Vīrabhadra: Me?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Vīrabhadra: I'm not a pure devotee.
Prabhupāda: But you are going to be, trying to be.
Vīrabhadra: I try to be.
Prabhupāda: That's all right. That's all right. That's all right. Yes?