Prabhupāda: Bhakti means the process by which Bhagavān and bhakta interact. That is bhakti.
Indian man (2): That's all? He gains with that interaction?
Prabhupāda: Interaction. That does not mean bhakta and Bhagavān become equal.
Indian man (2): Bhakta and Bhagavān may not be equal, but even the bhakti-mārga and we say the Bhagavān Himself declares that "My bhakta is more superior to Me."
Prabhupāda: That's all right. You say whatever you say, they remain two-different.
Indian man (2): They may remain two...
Prabhupāda: Then that is not advaita-vāda. That is dvaita-vāda. Two, two, not one. That is dvaita-vāda. That is the point.
Indian man: You mean to say eternally there is a soul and... This ātmā and Paramātmā will remain separate?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Therefore the... Therefore it is said: nitya-yuktā upāsate. Therefore the word is there, nitya-yuktā. Nitya means everlasting.
Indian man: Everlasting. You remain separate.
Prabhupāda: Separate. And that is a fact.
Devotee: Mamaivāṁśo jīva-loke jīva-bhūtaḥ sanātanaḥ (BG 15.7).
Prabhupāda: There are so many things. But here it is said nitya-yuktā upāsate. Even they come to the platform of nitya, where there is no birth and death. That is nitya. Nityaḥ śāśvato 'yaṁ na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre (BG 2.20). Even that platform, Bhagavān remains different than the devotee who worships.
Indian man (2): Eternally?
Prabhupāda: Eternally. That is nitya-yuktā upāsate. There is no oneness. Otherwise why it is nitya-yuktā upāsate? Nityo nityānām. The nityānām, plural number, and nitya, Bhagavān. So nitya-yuktā upāsate.
Indian man: If you take the kevala-bhaktas, if you take the life of a bhakta...
Prabhupāda: If you take logic, it is stated there in the Bhagavad-gītā.
Indian man: If you take bhakta-vidyā where so many sayings like Chakubhai and Namdev and all these people. If you take it... They had, they observed bhakti-mārga from the beginning, that is, they considered Kṛṣṇa...