Prabhupāda: Yajñārthe karmaṇo 'nyatra loko 'yaṁ karma-bandhanaḥ (BG 3.9). Aise to humanity ke liye sabhi kar raha hai, wo to yajna ho hi raha hai. (In that sense, everyone is doing it for humanity. Yajña is happening anyway.)
Dr. Patel: Wrongfully, wrongfully is not yajña.
Prabhupāda: What is wrongfully? Everyone is trying. The state is trying.
Dr. Patel: Everything is God. Ahaṁ kratur ahaṁ yajñaḥ ahaṁ ghṛtam. "Everything I am." That is Kṛṣṇa, no? And in the very next verse He says . . .
Prabhupāda: But when there is remembrance of Kṛṣṇa.
Dr. Patel: That is right.
Prabhupāda: Aham. That "aham" must be there.
Dr. Patel: In the name of God, you do, and you forget that you are doing. Two things, that is yajña. That you are not the performer . . .
Prabhupāda: Not . . . no, you cannot . . . you cannot manufacture yajña. The yajña-vidhi is there, in the Vedas, śāstras. You cannot say that, "I am doing for God. That is yajña." Yajña-vidhi. Yaḥ śāstra-vidhim utsṛjya vartate kāma-kārataḥ, na sukhaṁ sa avāpnoti (BG 16.23). He cannot get happiness if he derides śāstra, yajña-vidhi. You cannot manufacture yajña-vidhi.
Dr. Patel: Kṛṣṇa's life itself was a yajña.
Prabhupāda: No, then there was no need of Bhagavad-gītā. Anyone can manufacture his yajña.
Dr. Patel: Yajña. But the very life of Kṛṣṇa was a yajña. He said that. Ahaṁ yajñaḥ. Ahaṁ kratur aham ajyam . . . what is that? I forgot that . . .
Prabhupāda: No, no. Ahaṁ yajña, but who is following Kṛṣṇa? That is the question.
Dr. Patel: He follows, you follow, I follow.
Prabhupāda: No, no, any . . .
Dr. Patel: You follow, I follow means I follow Kṛṣṇa. (laughs)
Prabhupāda: Means nobody follows. Because Kṛṣṇa says, sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja (BG 18.66). Who is doing that?
Dr. Patel: Here dharma means all actions . . .
Prabhupāda: Dharma means occupational duties.
Dr. Patel: Actions.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Duty. Dharma means duty.
Dr. Patel: "You give up all other actions and do actions for Me."
Prabhupāda: Dharma does not mean so-called some religious fanaticism. Dharma means occupational duty. Just like you are medical man. You are practiced medical dharma. Medical dharma.
Dr. Patel: So I went yesterday early, after quarreling. (laughs)
Prabhupāda: Yes. That's all right. No, that's all right. One must . . . just like Arjuna. Arjuna was a fighter. His dharma was to fight.
Dr. Patel: (Gujrati) Fighter . . . I am wrongly placed in the medical profession. (laughs)
Prabhupāda: No. dharma means one's sva-kar . . . just like varṇāśrama-dharma.