You are making, manufacturing, discovering truth. That means you do not know what is truth. You should answer like that. That you are all rascals. You do not know what is truth; therefore you are discovering truth

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"you are making, manufacturing, discovering truth. That means you do not know what is truth. You should answer like that, that "You are all rascals. You do not know what is truth; therefore you are discovering truth"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1975 Conversations and Morning Walks

Amogha: But at least what we know now is more true than what we knew before. And if we keep trying, we'll know more. Prabhupāda: Yes, that means you are always in ignorance. This means that you are always in ignorance. And Kṛṣṇa does not say like that. Kṛṣṇa says, "The same thing I am speaking to you again." That means you are not in ignorance. We may forget something, but the truth is always the same. But you are making, manufacturing, discovering truth. That means you do not know what is truth. You should answer like that, that "You are all rascals. You do not know what is truth; therefore you are discovering truth. Truth is never discovered.

750510 - Morning Walk - Perth

Prabhupāda: That's all right. But one who does not know, why is he said that Bhagavad-gītā was written five thousand years ago? He does not know. That is my point. If you had known, then you would not have said like that, foolishly, that Bhagavad-gītā was spoken five thousand years. It is avyayam, it is eternally there. It is eternally there. Imaṁ vivasvate yogaṁ proktavān aham avyayam. Avyayam means which is never under deterioration. It is eternally existing. That is avyayam. Just like ātmā, soul, avyayam. There is no deterioration. It is there. So, "Once, forty millions of years ago, once it was spoken, but in due course of time it is now lost; therefore I am speaking it again to you." You do not read Bhagavad-gītā it is said there? How do you say it is written five thousand years ago? It is already there. "It was first spoken forty millions of years ago; now it is lost." That is. . . the material world is like that. One thing is lost sometimes. "Therefore I am speaking to you." And "Why You are speaking to me?" "Because you are My devotee." This is the beginning of Bhagavad-gītā. That means only the devotees can understand Bhagavad-gītā, and it is always existing, and because it is now lost . . . Just like we are putting Bhagavad-gītā . . . Why am I stressing so much? It is lost, by the so-called Gandhis and Dr. Radhakrishnan. They have made it lost. Therefore we are stressing. The thing is there. We are simply trying to revive it again. It is not that it is the beginning. No. It is already there. But these rascals have made them lost. People do not understand it, do not follow it, that is the difficulty. So we are trying to revive it again. It is revival of the whole teaching. Permanent teaching. Permanent beneficial instruction. Now it is lost. Which way we shall go?Gaṇeśa: Straight ahead, Śrīla Prabhupāda, there is another path.Prabhupāda: There is another path?Paramahaṁsa: Another footpath, yes.Prabhupāda: This road is nice.Amogha: Yes.Prabhupāda: Which way? This way or that way?Amogha: This way is all right.Prabhupāda: All right.Paramahaṁsa: The sun is this way.Prabhupāda: Bhagavad-gītā is not that, five thousand years ago, not like that. Just like you cannot say the sun is now coming. It is there. It is there always; you are seeing now. They used to think like that—at night the sun is dead—these rascals. And they are advanced. They used to think that this earth is square, (laughing) these rascals. And they are advanced. They are changing their opinion daily. That is their scientific knowledge. Why they should change?Amogha: They say this means they are discovering the truth, step by step.Prabhupāda: That means you do not know the truth. That is a fact. You do not know—simply speculating. You are accepting some spot, "This is truth," and after some days, "No, no, this is not truth, this is truth." This is their position.Paramahaṁsa: Many of the scientific textbooks that were written twenty years ago are all outdated. Can't use them any more.Prabhupāda: Useless. So this scientific at the present moment, after twenty years they'll be useless. This is your scientific.Amogha: But at least what we know now is more true than what we knew before. And if we keep trying, we'll know more.Prabhupāda: Yes, that means you are always in ignorance. This means that you are always in ignorance. And Kṛṣṇa does not say like that. Kṛṣṇa says, "The same thing I am speaking to you again." That means you are not in ignorance. We may forget something, but the truth is always the same. But you are making, manufacturing, discovering truth. That means you do not know what is truth. You should answer like that, that "You are all rascals. You do not know what is truth; therefore you are discovering truth. Truth is never discovered. It is already there. But you do not know what is that truth. That is credit that you are making advance towards truth, but you do not know what is truth. That is a fact." Is it clear? Making discoveries means you do not know what is truth. But it is good credit for you that you are trying to advance. That's it. That we agree.Paramahaṁsa: So eventually, if we keep advancing like this, we'll understand the truth.Prabhupāda: No, you'll never advance. Your advance is so slow and foolish that you cannot.Amogha: But some Indian history professors say . . .Prabhupāda: We are not talking of Indian history; we are talking of the whole truth. We never say it is Indian truth.Amogha: But Bhagavad-gītā has been presented in so many ways also, and now we are saying it is another way.Prabhupāda: Therefore Kṛṣṇa says that "I am showing you the way how to understand Bhagavad-gītā. You have to accept that." Not so many ways. Only that way. That I have explained in the Preface, that when you have to take a medicine, you have to take the direction: dose, such and such. Not that so many ways doses are prescribed. No. According to the prescription you have to take. Otherwise you will waste your time. (pause) Now they have wasted so much plates. What is the value of this? (referring to memorial plates on trees)Amogha: Bhūtejya.Prabhupāda: What benefit is there? A soldier has died. So what is the use of having a tree, having a plate?Amogha: This will make us remember how much our countrymen . . .Prabhupāda: What benefit is there by remembering?Paramahaṁsa: Well, the family feels honored that there is a tree here for that son of theirs.Prabhupāda: What benefit do they derive?Paramahaṁsa: Well, they can come and see it, and . . .Prabhupāda: Do they think that man who has died is still there?Amogha: Next time when there is a war, then they will feel more inclined to fight, knowing that there may be a tree for them. (laughs)Prabhupāda: It means this is government deceiving. The man is not there. And even if he is there, suppose the soldier, after dying for his country, has become a tree, (laughter) is it a very good reward? Just see their . . . (indistinct) . . .. How foolishly they are thinking. We have to point out their foolishness. That is our business. They are working very hard, undoubtedly, but they are working foolishly. Śrama eva hi kevalam (SB 1.2.8). The result is that simply they are becoming tired. That's all. Because they are not working intelligently. Like monkey, he is busy all day. What is the value of that busy-ness? You'll find the monkey, he is never sitting idly. He's always busy, "erh, erh, erh" (imitating monkey). (laughter) So what is the result of that busy-ness? He's a monkey. And they claim to be, they are coming from monkey, these rascals. So we can say that your monkey's quality is already there. (laughter) You have not improved more than monkey, because you are working uselessly. They are theorizing that you have come from monkey, and as soon as you say that "You are monkey," they become angry. Just see. They are claiming that we are coming from monkey. And if you say, "You are monkey, no better than monkey," then they are angry. Just see.