Bali-mardana: You always said because you had faith in the words of your Guru Mahārāja, therefore...
Prabhupāda: Yasya deve parā bhaktir yathā deve tathā gurau (ŚU 6.23). Similar surrender to guru. Yathā deve, as you surrender to Kṛṣṇa—similar to guru—then your life is perfect. Yathā deve tathā gurau, tasyaite kathitā hy arthāḥ prakāśante. Then this meaning of the scripture will be revealed automatically. And you are singing daily, guru-mukha-padma-vākya, cittete kariyā aikya, āra nā kariha mane āśā **. Nothing more. Then your life is perfect. This is secret. Guru-mukha-padma-vākya, cittete kariyā aikya, āra nā kariha mane āśā **. Don't manufacture ideas, rascal. Then it is finished. In material world everyone is a demon-crazy. Everyone is manufacturing ideas. And they are suffering. All rascals, are manufacturing ideas. Kartāham iti manyate. Ahaṅkāra-vimūḍhātmā kartāham iti manyate (BG 3.27). He's fully under control of the laws of nature and he's thinking, "I am independent. I can manufacture ideas." Āḍhyo 'bhijanavān... That is... Find out this. Āḍhyo 'bhijanavān asmi ko 'nyo 'sti, some like that, in the Sixteenth Chapter. "Demon-crazy." Crazy demons are thinking like that. (chuckles) "I can manufacture something. I am very intelligent. We..."
Hari-śauri: Oh.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: The three verses together?
Prabhupāda: No, you find out. There's so many. The mentality of the demon-crazy...
Hari-śauri: Yeah, how he's thinking. That verse that describes how he's thinking.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: "So much is mine today..."
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes.
Hari-śauri:
- idam adya mayā labdham
- imaṁ prāpsye...
Prabhupāda: Punar dhanam.
Hari-śauri:
- ...manoratham
- idam astīdam api me
- bhaviṣyati punar dhanam
- asau mayā hataḥ śatrur
- haniṣye cāparān api
- īśvaro 'ham ahaṁ bhogī
- siddho 'haṁ balavān sukhī
Prabhupāda: Yes, this is...
Hari-śauri:
- āḍhyo 'bhijanavān asmi
- ko 'nyo 'sti sadṛśo mayā
- yakṣye dāsyāmi modiṣya
- ity ajñāna-vimohitāḥ
"The demoniac person thinks, 'So much wealth do I have today, and I will gain more according to my schemes. So much is mine now, and it will increase in the future more and more. He is my enemy, and I have killed him, and my other enemy will also be killed. I am the lord of everything. I am the enjoyer. I am perfect, powerful and happy. I am the richest man, surrounded by aristocratic relatives. There is none so powerful and happy as I am. I shall perform sacrifice, I shall give some charity, and thus I shall rejoice.' In this way such persons are deluded by ignorance."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Then he gets a toothache and it's all finished. (laughter)
Prabhupāda: Yes. The rascal Sai Baba says, "I am God."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Now it seems that they have detected him for sure. He's really becoming publicly denounced now all over the world.
Prabhupāda: Ācchā.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, yes. They were saying, those two Bengali gentlemen this morning, the film producers, were saying that the scholars here now and some of the newspaper people are beginning to expose, that "This is a complete cheater. This Sai Baba is cheating, and why are the innocent people falling for him? What kind of fool is he that he says he's God?" It's a good thing that they're exposing him, because he was the most acclaimed so-called "bhagavān" of them all. He is the most respected around India of all of these bogus gurus.
Bali-mardana: Now all the other gurus have faded away. You are...
Hari-śauri: There's only you left, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Bali-mardana: You're the only one left. All the bogus gurus have faded away. The Maharishi...
Prabhupāda: That Sadaji Vilal has said that "Bhaktivedanta Swami... (Hindi)"
Hari-śauri: "Blackened everybody else's face."
Prabhupāda: He said.
Hari-śauri: "Blackened the face of all the other yogis."
Prabhupāda: (laughs) He said that. (Hindi)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And coming from him it's especially relishable, because he used to criticize you for denouncing all of them.