Hṛdayānanda: God could have... God could have created me in such a way that I would never have fallen down.
Prabhupāda: He has created, but He has given you independence.
Jagadīśa: God wants us to enjoy.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Kāśirāma: Why has He given us that independence if in that independence we...?
Prabhupāda: Then you are not living being. You are dull stone. God does not want that you remain a stone.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: "Free will" means living being.
Hari-śauri: But if he gave us the material world to enjoy, then why do we have to suffer here?
Prabhupāda: No, no, enjoyments... You do not know what is enjoyment. You suffer. Just like you are voracious eater. You eat and then suffer. Then no eating. That means you are nonsense. You do not know how much to eat. Just like you require little salt with your food, and if you put one ser of salt, then that is your foolishness. Because salt has to be eaten, it does not mean that you bring the whole ocean to make it salty. Tena tyaktena bhuñjīthā (ISO 1). That is the instruction.