Prabhupāda: Right in here.
Hari-śauri: Through that window you could see Rūpa Gosvāmī's samadhi. And for those two rooms they were charging five rupees a month?
Prabhupāda: Yes. These rooms were broken. So they told me that "You can repair these, and whatever you like, you can give." So I thought, "Don't need much space." "Pay me if..." I know, before me there was a tenant in that other room. He was paying three rupees. So I thought, "Two rooms, but I have spent money. So I'll give him five." Now I am giving them ten rupees.
Hari-śauri: To retain it.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: Sometimes the devotees go down there and clean out the rooms, and they have kīrtana there sometimes. I think this is the first book that someone included this photo.
Prabhupāda: Yes. It was very calm and quiet. And people used to offer obeisances from outside because they knew. Practically everyone knew me. So they used to offer...
Hari-śauri: You were very well known in Vṛndāvana before you came?
Prabhupāda: Not very well known, but people knew me.
Hari-śauri: Because you were writing or...?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: Or because of your ambition to come to the West?
Prabhupāda: No, at that time there was no such thing. I was living there, retired man.
Hari-śauri: So when you went to Vṛndāvana, you'd given up the idea of coming to the West or...?
Prabhupāda: No, coming to the West, the idea was there, but I was planning how to go.
Hari-śauri: Oh, nothing concrete was there.
Prabhupāda: So that idea was there, but how to go there, how to preach there, how to take some books, how to bring them, everything alone...
Hari-śauri: So as soon as you had some books, then you were...
Prabhupāda: Yes. Then I decided. Everything was being dictated by superior.
Hari-śauri: I was told that one day you were told by Rūpa Gosvāmī that you must go.
Prabhupāda: But that was open secret. Everyone knew. This antique photo is very dull.
Hari-śauri: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Where this photo was?
Hari-śauri: I don't know. (end)